(I was originally going to post in this thread, but I realized that it didn't really pertain to what Sam is setting up, at least not atm.)

Sam and I were talking last night, and she told me that it really bothers her that there isn't a true villain on the site. We have Ed, but at this point he's still a public hero, and the minute they do find out he's bad they're tossing him in jail. We came up with some ideas and things, but I want to hear what you guys have to say and whether or not you'd be interested in offering characters for the bad guy group. Main points:

• Leader would be female. She digs terrorism, anarchy, and that sort of thing. She may not be interested in power so much as she is seeing the wizarding world in ruins at her feet.
• A bunch of ex-DE, criminal, purist fanatic types would be part of her posse.
• They work in tandem with Ed on the fourth unforgivable research.
• This group is partly responsible for the disappearances. I think they're the ones that killed Shacklebolt and kidnapped Potter, along with the other high profile disappearances.
• In future site plottage, they will take advantage of a disastrous situation in the UK and basically act like pirates on the high seas or bandits in the Wild West. Robbing, razing, raping, murdering...generally reveling in the downfall of the evil that is the modern wizarding world.

Although this group won't come into play plot-wise for quite some time, I think it would be fun to RP some people joining the group, their evil plans, a kidnapping or two, that sort of thing. It would be fun if Teddy started to figure out what was going on so they caught him and imprisoned him with Harry.

I think Carmen may eventually join up with them, after her career is ruined with the fourth unforgivable story and her EXTREMELY UNWANTED pregnancy. :angry: It may be a 'join or die' thing, as well, because she knows too much.

I also think that Ella Duncan would be a good candidate for a right-hand sort of person to the leader, though Sarah will have to think about that once she gets better.

That's all I've got. Hit me up with some plottage, yo.

I'd been thinking about wanting to make somebody evil! Count me in!

Oh, I'm so touched! You really took my idea into account. Thank you. :) As for me, I'd be cool playing a henchperson. Perhaps the sort of henchperson who secretly wants to seize power but will never, ever be able to. If the whole 'E.B. undercover' thing doesn't take off, he could become a bit of a rat...

[[And if someone wants to take someone who knows E.B. or is a relative or something, I still really want him to go undercover. Probably he won't figure out what the group really does for awhile, but having an 'in' would be nice. (For those who don't know, Elior 'E.B.' Braun is my Auror).]]

Sorry to hijack the thread.

I like that we can sort of build from the ground up with this group--start with some of the more 'visible' characters, you know? Those who would be doing the dirty work, but not necessarily in on the big plan. And that's good, because we don't really know the big plan, or all the info about the disappeared people. Great way of setting it up, Carmen.

EDIT: By the way, Cal is in cahoots with this group. He's worked up a lot of the theories behind the spells they use. :)

I think the leader should be a Squib. After all, an average witch or wizard would have no reason to want the wizarding world to crumble; they like magic. They need magic. They're lazy bums without it. That or, you know, Bellatrix Lestrange's illegitimate child, haha.

But, come to think of it, I do miss Georgiana... ;)

I wish Nat was here, haha. I imagine that the Syndicate will get blamed for a lot of the minor sort of shake-downs and stuff this group would be doing, and it'd be interesting to see the established crime world's reaction. I mean, would people like Patrick and Aleksandra embrace this upstart group, be indifferent, or stand against them and start turning in all the purist criminals they know?

I dunno. My brain is dead from work. More coherent plottage is in the future, lol.

/double post

I would like to see a "dirty Auror." This is a quote from my most recent Edward post, with Zatana Zosime:

It makes sense that Garrow would have some connection in the MLE to handle things like falsifying reports and censoring information and stuff. So yeah...make one!

Ooh and Sofia can get blamed for all of it, if it's uncovered, because she does soooo much paperwork and has a special "relationship" with Wendell that everyone's aware of, and no one likes her, and then she'll have to go into hiding like Wendell!

<3

Perhaps not a Squib, Spiv. On the face of it you'd think only a Squib would want to bring the wizarding world down, but there are far more candidates for it than that.

A witch who wants complete freedom to do as she wants with her magic, for example. Overthrow the establishment and she's got free reign, see?

It could even be an extreme blood purist such as Voldemort pretended to be, bent on destroying the Ministry to exert her will over the muggles or something. Cue Bellatrix's hitherto-unknown love-child! or something.

I'm really interested in this idea because James is only vaguely pro-purist and Anne is ... well Anne's a muggleborn who's really more interested in her ovaries than anything that's happening outside.

I have to admit that I do find the idea of playing a bad guy/girl tempting...especially since all the rest of my characters are such goody goodies. XD

I kinda liked the squib idea myself, although I understand that there are many more options as well. Such as someone who would ACTUALLY have powers of their own. I just think it would be funny if it were revealed after the wizarding world is at it's knees that the woman behind it all doesn't even have magical power to be feared.

Ooh. I might be interested in taking up the head evil woman, but only if you'll have me and don't mind waiting until I have Quinn established a little more. I would want to give her my full attention.

We'd spoken with someone interested in playing that part, but I don't think she's been around for a while...

*is saddened by this*

Hi AG, your friendly neighborhood terrorist ring leader here!

This is most of the backround information that Spiv Carmen and I have worked through for the terrorists.

Shallah is a veelah rather than a squib, but this aside most of the facts laid out by Carmen are the same.


She resents wizards and witches for abusing magic. She doesn’t feel they have any understanding of how it works and should not have become the dominate presence in the magical world while others with a high level of understanding live on the fringes.

From the sidelines she saw both comings and subsequent goings of Lord Voldermort with only passing interest. It was during the Irish blood revolution that she began to wonder how little it would take to make a society crumble. The senselessness of the whole affair only fortified her idea of Wizards as undeserving abusers of magic.

It was during her work in the Blood Revolution that she met Edward Garrow and came to fully understand how far wizards will go to defend something as meaningless as blood lines. She performed some work for his side of the revolution but the two have not have contact since then. She was not aware that Garrow was developing the 4th Unforgivable just as Garrow had no idea that she was the one behind the disappearances.

She’s the head of terrorist group, though there are only a very select few who are actually aware of this fact. Most blood fanatics (terrorist bread and butter) wouldn’t follow someone who isn’t even human. Instead she acts as if she is a deputy for another, carrying out missions and recruiting followers while her “boss” stays a safe distance away.

It was Shallah and her wizarding partner who developed the apparition bug, and were responsible for the death of the Minister of Magic and the kidnapping of Harry Potter.

She hadn’t planned to make her move on London for some time. Shallah had hoped to gather more followers and perfect the apparition spell. Then she heard the rumors of a curse with the power to steal a human soul. The curse is a development that she neither had a hand in nor anticipated and thus presents a problem. She has come back to London ahead of schedule in order to try and root out any information on the curse.

She doesn’t really have malice toward the Wizarding world (their ignorance aside) she just wants to see first hand what happens when everything falls apart.

These are the basics for now! If there are any questions or ideas post em!

Well, since Cal helped to develop the Fourth Unforgivable, and he's none too pleased with the world in general (anger problems, you know)--never mind Wizarding. He wants to make an impact on the world somehow, you know? So--we've set that she's going to track him down for the purpose of finding out more about the Curse. Excellent! Can't wait to thread, though it'll be a bit in the future.

Then there's the question of how much she'd even affect him, veela-wise, since he leans toward attraction to men and is quite practiced at repression. That would be another point of interest were we to plot, I'm sure, and would make for an interesting power dynamic.

He'd probably work for her in a research capacity--he knows a lot of destructive spells and potions, it'd be great. Of course she'd have to pay him... ;) So: first JUST research, not really seriously in with the terrorist agenda, possibly before he does away with magic. Then, in penance, he starts acting as a double agent and gets in deeper.

He's not actually a cold-blooded killer. Double-agenting for money, anyone? Bueller? I really want this. Plot about being a double agent pending with Atlas.

I think, in fact, that he may try the double-agent thing for a couple of reasons. One, he'll feel bad for being partly responsible for almost destroying the Wizarding world. Two, he's happily immune to Shallah's charm; would give him an edge...

We shall work this out.

{{EDIT ADDITION: Cal could actually rather kick ass in combat (I mentioned this in the cbox, but feel compelled to document it more permanently). He'd get a fake wand and a sack of grenades or a submachine gun... and he'd run around yelling 'Avada Kedavra!' and scaring people half to death, then toss a grenade at them. They'd be going 'Hey... I'm not dead!' And Cal would wait for the explosion, and... "... Yet."}} <--will probably just do this to the bad guys! :D




Oh, and I think Amadeus Faulkner (Steph's character) and Elior Braun might be interested in some runins with terrorists and such. Semi-vigilante justice!

Note: they are interested. VERY. E.B. wants to do more than his restrictive job allows, and Am wants to run afoul of the Ministry for vigilanteism. Game?

Ooh, hooray evilness!

Jenniff and I already have Shallah and Garrow worked out. As for everyone else...

Patrick is by trade a bad guy, but I think we all know that he's a good guy deep down. All the Everards are. And after all, he did return to England to keep what happened in Ireland from happening here. He'll probably join up with E.B. and Amadeus.

Constance, on the other hand...I was kind of talking to Sam about this, but she could just have easily become a murderer as an Auror with all her issues. I'm entertaining the possibility of having the bad guys influence her and sort of flip the switch from earnest keeper of justice to psychopath. Thoughts?

Spiv and I had previously talked about witnessing the 4th unforgivable changing Atlas.

Basically most of his crazyness (though certainly not all) is a front that Atlas developed in childhood and has been carrying on his entire adult life. Leading Carmen into the Dept of Mysteries will fundamentally change him. He'll quickly put together that Cal was helping with this (due to the other man purchasing certain ingrediants from SHOP) and confront him.

Cal, due to guilt for helping to create such a thing will then agree to work with Atlas in order to fight the terrorist organization.

*bounces* Oh plottage, how do I love thee? Let me count the ways...but later.

Here's what I'm getting so far.

CONFIRMED TERRORISTS:

• Shallah Kosa: Veela leader who preys on unsuspecting societies.
• Edward Garrow: Scapegoat whose own curse comes back to haunt him.
• Augustine Askew
• Sofia Robards

IN-BETWEENS:

• Carmen Snidgeton: Spiky heeled reporter who is roped into terrorism against her will. Oh, the irony.
• Amadeus Faulkner: Semi-purist scapegoat who eventually joins the FBs.
• Calixtus Ferox: Creepy double agent.
• Constance Fallon: Auror teetering on the edge between earnest keeper of justice and psychopath.

PRO-ANTI-TERRORISTS:

• Atlas Caedmon: De-quirked, morally awakened, ready for battle.
• Ivy Ballantine: Seasoned fighter who feels obliged to help.
• E. Braun: Vigilante wreaker of justice.
• Patrick Everard: Black marketer with good interests at heart.
• Wendell Darrow: Pureblood criminal with a grudge.

I wasn't sure if I should put Amadeus with the PATs or the In-Betweens...so I put him in between. I think I got most of it right though, haha. Details shall emerge!

I think it would be really interesting to see Conn go over to the dark side. The same for Sofia, actually. If one or both of them manages to keep up a good face, they could cause some serious damage. Ivy has Conn on her list o' good people and it wouldn't be hard to betray her.

Plottage with Cal as a double agent and Atlas as a good guy=awesome.

Do we have any more terrorists floating around on the site? I feel like we have a few more...

Wendell will be Pro-anti-terrorist. I think the terrorists will definately try to get him on their side...because he's a pureblood and is used to doing illegal things. However he will probably turn them down flat. Not necessarily because he is an idealist or cares one way or the other, but rather because he has a grudge against the traditional pureblood society that has basical ignored and looked down on him and his family. Obviously this will cause some relationship tensions with him and Sofia. *cackles*

Augustine Askew: terrorist, if I ever get around to playing him... and I should, since this is actually the plot I made him for. Excellent.

Some extra notes: a new member just joined who's interested in being part of the terrorist plottage, so that should be another one to add. Shallah/Spiv have been contacted about it.

Also, will they be needing a headquarters or will they move from place to place for meetings as needed?

*throws out random stuff*

If your terrorist group needs a supplier/purveyor of Not So Legal Objects, then Maggie's in, as long as there's good pay.

So I somehow missed this entire plot thread... wow epic fail on my part. Anyway on to the point.

I am ok with that. Sofia is not really cut out to be an Auror lets face it my pureblood protegee has a wicked streak a mile wide that is barely held together by her upbringing though she does have the whole innocent mask down and the skill set required for the job (read unadulterated love of torture). Anyway she is an open target for both the terrorist group for pinning blame on or working for them. She is extremely vulnerable at this point seeing as the possible love of her life has died and she feels like a major failure due to the whole not getting her dream job and breaking a criminal out of jail part. Anyone could approach her at this point and be like 'unhappy with the state of the union? want to see the destruction of the very place you have come to hate? Just keep filing out paperwork and avoid capturing these people...oh by the way you are going to take the blame for misleading the entire wizarding community but we have a terrorist protection program! Free of course with entry into our organization.'

So this terrorist group is different than the pureblood movement we discussed in the other thread right?

Sofia and Maggie, both added! (I'm assuming the pay is good, in Maggie's case)


Once again, we've got...


CONFIRMED TERRORISTS:

• Shallah Kosa: Veela leader who preys on unsuspecting societies.
• Edward Garrow: Scapegoat whose own curse comes back to haunt him.
• Augustine Askew: Partner in terrorism
• Sofia Robards: Red herring partner in terrorism.
• Maggie Orison: Supplier of not-so-legal objects.

IN-BETWEENS:

• Carmen Snidgeton: Spiky heeled reporter who is roped into terrorism against her will. Oh, the irony.
• Amadeus Faulkner: Semi-purist scapegoat who eventually joins the FBs.
• Calixtus Ferox: Creepy double agent.
• Constance Fallon: Auror teetering on the edge between earnest keeper of justice and psychopath.

PRO-ANTI-TERRORISTS:

• Atlas Caedmon: De-quirked, morally awakened, ready for battle.
• Ivy Ballantine: Seasoned fighter who feels obliged to help.
• E. Braun: Vigilante wreaker of justice.
• Patrick Everard: Black marketer with good interests at heart.
• Wendell Darrow: Pureblood criminal with a grudge.

Now. As much as I like calling them Terrorists, it's not really catchy. Anyone have an idea for a name for the group? Ivy B. suggests "Slimy sons of witches."


Also: yes, there is a difference between being a purist and being a terrorist, though I imagine the two groups cross over pretty regularly. People like Ed Garrow are on the purist side of the fence. They just want the wizarding community brought back to a clean elitist society which is totally under pureblood control, whereas the terrorists want to see the wizarding community brought to its knees, totally destroyed, for various personal and philosophical reasons.

Just so everyone knows! After Garrow is thrown in prison, there will be a few months of relative peace. During that time there will still be disappearances, still rumors of the "apparition bug," and that sort of thing, but on a reduced scale. (In other words, a happy time for whatever plottage you guys want to do) It's during this time that I presume the terrorist group will get all set up, get some RPs in and maybe a few kidnappings or murders? After the few months are up, however, there's going to be a major plot event which will give the terrorists their chance to shine. I just wanted to be really clear about that so we're all on the same page. Although this group may not get a lot of action at the moment, it's going to be extremely important a few IC months down the road. But that's far enough ahead that we shouldn't start plotting it yet, for our own sanity, haha.

Over and out! *salutes*