The Question for Discussion is whether you believe in Absolute Good and Evil or whether there is no Absolute Good or Evil. DO you see everyhting as Black and White or as shades of Grey?

As a Christian, I believe in God, who is Absolute Good. Therefore I believe in Absolute Good and Evil.

i'm a Christian, but i see things in all shades. there are those sick people who mean to do others harm which would fit the definition of absolute evil. but i also think that there are those people who unintentionally cause others harm by making some bad choices in their lives. i, of course, am the definition of absolute goodness

Then you are without sin?

define "sin"

Sin is evil.

*gamefreak is not evil, therefore, *gamefreak is the definition of absolute goodness

"For all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God" ~Romans 3:23

I see no absolute good or evil. Neither of these exist the way I see it.

As a Christian I believe in absolute good and evil. I won't evangelize though.

So you see everything in shades of grey?

If you want to say it that way, yes.

Off of what do you base your perceptions?

I don't believe in it. If there were a God or single, all-powerful deity of such, I'dn't believe in Absolute Good. There is no such thing.

Why would the God, who is absolute Good, choose to have such things that are evil in the world, then? Why would s/he/it not choose to make a perfect world in their name or similarity? There must be some evil in that.

There is no absolute; there are only balances of the two in everything.

God cannot make the world you describe because as you said balance is require. for everything light in the world there is also something dark

I believe there are only shades of gray.

Like spriting, if you randomly generate, the odds of getting perfect white(evil) or black(good) are next to none. Emotions them selves, remorse, and a good deal of other factors taint the perfection of black and white.

Sin/Evil comes when Man chooses to disobey God. Man can do this because God has given him the ability of Free Choice. However, in the End, all will be good.

Not as existing...things. Just as ideas.

Good and evil are ideas created by people. As I believe, neither "exists."

That was about exactly what I was going to say. Bravo.

Then how do you distinguish Right from Wrong?

Just like I said, they're ideas created by people. It just so happens that I'm a person, so based on my ideas of right and wrong I make judgements on what I see.

What do you base your ideas of Right and Wrong on?

Most people use logic that would end up with the best results for whoever they want to please.

Harm to other people, typically. And also best results for myself...but in everyday situations usually harm. Unsurprisingly, my judgement changes when I'm agitated. B)

Feels incomplete as an answer, though. I don't think I can put my moral compass into words so quickly.

My own observation is based on people themselves. I have never met a single person that had no good, or no bad in him/her. There was always at least a little bit of both. There isn't a person in this world that has no good or bad.

If all will be good in the end, how can there be pure evil?

In the End, all evil will be gone.

I'm Chritian too, but absolute good/evil exists pretty much solely in God and Satan. But as for people and everyting else, there is balance of good and evil.

Tch. You can't really believe that. Evil is part of nature. Part of natural selection.

If all were good, there would be no point in the struggle that keeps the living things of the earth progressing and evolving. Evil in necessary for change.

Good = static

If everyone were to be the same, be nice like everyone else, there would be no reason to advance any further, because everyone would be wholly content. When you're content, you wouldn't strive for something greater; that would make people jealous, and jealousy - Envy - is a sin. There is always evil, because it is necessary.

Pure Evil is absolute so there's no hope for removal or change. Right?

I say there's at least a little good and bad in everyone.

More Bad than good.

I would have to say I disagree with that. I think its pretty much all about perspective. People do bad things because they actually think they're good things. Not many people just do things for the sake of being a bad person.

How would someone think it's a good thing to kill their neighbor? No, people do bad things because they don't care about the consequence. Or at least until they get caught.

Mabey the guy killed his neighbor cause he was pissed at his neighbor and thought it was the right thing to get rid of him. If you look at it all from a different perspective it all makes sense

Everyone knows it's not right to run into your neighbors house and shoot him just because you don't like him. Everyone has a conscience. AND ignoranceisn't an excuse from getting out of something. You might not have known that the speed limit was 40 mph but that's your fault and it's not going to keep you from getting a ticket.

Man always wants to amke himself superior and that means outting people unde rhis control. Man is naturally evil.

If they think their neighbor deserves it, if they think the community would actually be better off without their neighbor, it's quite easily justified in their mind.
And who says they don't care about the consequences? Not everyone does "bad" things for the same reasons. Often, it's all about the consequences--a suicide bomber, for example, may believe that giving his life to bring down a major monument will pass a message to the world that will change it for the better. Like anyone who makes a decision, he simply thinks the "good" consequences (changing the world) outweigh the bad (killing yourself/killing a bunch of people). If this person doesn't think any of the deaths including his are a bad thing, then it's even easier to justify because in his eyes there are no negative consequences!

"because you don't like him" isn't really what he said...and what everyone "knows" about morality is actually what everyone was taught--it's not fact. It's commonly agreed upon as being "good" to not kill people, but nothing moral is fact.

But the parameters of that conscience, the "this is where I draw the line," is different for different people.
I had something else to say, but I ***ing forgot. ¬_¬

If it's not obvious by now, I pretty much agree with stickster. I wouldn't say all bad things are percieved as good by whoever does them--but people rarely act without at least justifying their actions to themselves. Whether you believe you're cleaning scum from the world by killing someone or by scrubbing your bathtub, you still think you're doing someone a service--yourself, someone else, whatever God(s) you believe in, or some combination of those three.