Title: Paranormal Activity
Zephiel - August 12, 2007 08:00 PM (GMT)
Do you believe in paranormal activity such as ghosts or Extra Terrestrials? I do believe your spirit stays alive after your death but I do not believe in "haunting" and life beyond the grave. However, I have always been a strong believer in aliens because the truth is out there. Recently a site has popped up called
The Black Vault that tells all about the secrecy that is UFOs. What do you believe in?
Dez384 - August 12, 2007 08:02 PM (GMT)
I do not believe in Aliens or the conventional beliefs about Ghosts.
I believe that we all have spirits and that when we die we go to one of two places.
FullMetalOsaka - August 12, 2007 08:04 PM (GMT)
I beleive your spirit lives, but dosen't haunt people or places,
that aliens really are out there, but havent come to earth,
the loch ness monster is real, but it's just a rare species found only there,
and UFO's don't exist.
Linkssword - August 12, 2007 09:18 PM (GMT)
I believe when you die, thats it. No ghost, spirit, heaven or hell. Just nothing.
Exxucus - August 12, 2007 09:24 PM (GMT)
I aknowledge that there may very well be an afterlife, though of what, who knows? There are other life forms out there, but again, we've yet to find them. I just try to keep an open mind and aknowledge all possibilities.
Larry the Reaper - August 12, 2007 09:26 PM (GMT)
I believe in ETs because it's pretentious BS to say Earth is the only planet that hosts life.
As for spirits, my views are TBD.
swordsmen - August 12, 2007 09:49 PM (GMT)
I always question god, I mean I constantly run through my head what happens after death, i believe in some superior being which i would call god and i know for us to have such deep thought and the ability to choose we must have a soul. I have always thought on this subject.
Larry the Reaper - August 12, 2007 10:02 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (swordsmen @ Aug 12 2007, 04:49 PM) |
| I always question god, I mean I constantly run through my head what happens after death, i believe in some superior being which i would call god and i know for us to have such deep thought and the ability to choose we must have a soul. I have always thought on this subject. |
If we have souls, where are they?
Anyway, I don't believe there is a God. I'll start believing when I get solid proof.
swordsmen - August 12, 2007 11:59 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Larry the Reaper @ Aug 12 2007, 05:02 PM) |
| QUOTE (swordsmen @ Aug 12 2007, 04:49 PM) | | I always question god, I mean I constantly run through my head what happens after death, i believe in some superior being which i would call god and i know for us to have such deep thought and the ability to choose we must have a soul. I have always thought on this subject. |
If we have souls, where are they?
Anyway, I don't believe there is a God. I'll start believing when I get solid proof.
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..i think that was the point of jesus :X
Larry the Reaper - August 13, 2007 12:46 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (swordsmen @ Aug 12 2007, 06:59 PM) |
| QUOTE (Larry the Reaper @ Aug 12 2007, 05:02 PM) | | QUOTE (swordsmen @ Aug 12 2007, 04:49 PM) | | I always question god, I mean I constantly run through my head what happens after death, i believe in some superior being which i would call god and i know for us to have such deep thought and the ability to choose we must have a soul. I have always thought on this subject. |
If we have souls, where are they?
Anyway, I don't believe there is a God. I'll start believing when I get solid proof.
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..i think that was the point of jesus :X
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Wasn't solid enough for the Jews.
Anyway, there was a scientific explanation for everything that happened. Everything else was completely exxagerated. The Bible is a bunch of hard core Christians trying to make things more religious. Except the part is the Torah.
Exxucus - August 13, 2007 02:03 AM (GMT)
The new and, If I am not mistaken(which I may be), old testament werer passed down hundreds of years, by word of mouth, before they were written down. It is very possible that the 'Miricles' were exaturation of a higher thought process than generally accepted at the time.
-5cholar- - August 13, 2007 02:33 AM (GMT)
I believe in aliens, but not ghosts. Also, I believe in the loch ness monster.
Cody 10 - August 13, 2007 02:35 AM (GMT)
I believe in Aliens and reincarnation.
Eniomus - August 13, 2007 02:51 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Larry the Reaper @ Aug 12 2007, 05:02 PM) |
| QUOTE (swordsmen @ Aug 12 2007, 04:49 PM) | | I always question god, I mean I constantly run through my head what happens after death, i believe in some superior being which i would call god and i know for us to have such deep thought and the ability to choose we must have a soul. I have always thought on this subject. |
If we have souls, where are they?
Anyway, I don't believe there is a God. I'll start believing when I get solid proof.
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^this
For reasons stated, I believe in UFOs, but none of the other things.
Larry the Reaper - August 13, 2007 04:02 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Exxucus @ Aug 12 2007, 09:03 PM) |
| The new and, If I am not mistaken(which I may be), old testament werer passed down hundreds of years, by word of mouth, before they were written down. It is very possible that the 'Miricles' were exaturation of a higher thought process than generally accepted at the time. |
You are ^_^
It is the Jewish Torah.
Anyway, the Loch Ness monster(s) are descendents of dinosaurs that fled to the oceans when Dino-geddon broke loose. The plates moved around, making the oppening through which they traveled to Loch Ness, which then sealed up.
The idea that Nessy is one creature and has lived for hundreds of years is absurd. There must be at least two.
YokaiKnight - August 13, 2007 04:23 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Larry the Reaper @ Aug 12 2007, 03:02 PM) |
| If we have souls, where are they? |
If souls exist as many understand them to, things not a part of the physical realm, then it's quite possible that they may simply be undetectable and we'll never know.
| QUOTE (Larry) |
| The Bible is a bunch of hard core Christians trying to make things more religious. |
This is also more of a "note" than a response, but I want to say that I would be surprised if the very first Christians weren't "hardcore."
| QUOTE (Larry) |
| Anyway, the Loch Ness monster(s) are descendents of dinosaurs that fled to the oceans when Dino-geddon broke loose. The plates moved around, making the oppening through which they traveled to Loch Ness, which then sealed up. |
Where's you're solid proof for this, or at least a more detailed theory? In the meantime, let me just add that under tectonic plates is lava, and you might want to explain how they got through that.
Not picking on you or anything, Larry, but you just said more that I wanted to respond to than anyone else.
Larry the Reaper - August 13, 2007 04:34 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (YokaiKnight @ Aug 12 2007, 11:23 PM) |
| QUOTE (Larry the Reaper @ Aug 12 2007, 03:02 PM) | | If we have souls, where are they? |
If souls exist as many understand them to, things not a part of the physical realm, then it's quite possible that they may simply be undetectable and we'll never know.
| QUOTE (Larry) | | The Bible is a bunch of hard core Christians trying to make things more religious. |
This is also more of a "note" than a response, but I want to say that I would be surprised if the very first Christians weren't "hardcore."
| QUOTE (Larry) | | Anyway, the Loch Ness monster(s) are descendents of dinosaurs that fled to the oceans when Dino-geddon broke loose. The plates moved around, making the oppening through which they traveled to Loch Ness, which then sealed up. |
Where's you're solid proof for this, or at least a more detailed theory? In the meantime, let me just add that under tectonic plates is lava, and you might want to explain how they got through that.
Not picking on you or anything, Larry, but you just said more that I wanted to respond to than anyone else. |
I'm not sure if I should feel honored that you felt the need to respond only to me.
True, what I said was slightly contradictory, demanding solid proof, and then giving a whimsical theory, but hey, I'm young and stupid.
If the church my parents force me to attend is any basis, I'd say early Christians were more "Alright... Let's try this..." than hard-core. Anyway, somebody said miracles were exagerations, I think they were overlooking, or just plain stupid. Perhaps Jesus(I find it amusing that Anglos named him as it's spelled, but the name still exists, as 'Hay-soose') was damn lucky, arriving and 'curing' as antibodies completed the immunity to whatever the hell the desease was. This is highly unlucky, but still a possibility(be that chance .0000000001% or what have you)
159951Mario - August 13, 2007 01:17 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Larry the Reaper @ Aug 12 2007, 11:34 PM) |
| QUOTE (YokaiKnight @ Aug 12 2007, 11:23 PM) | | QUOTE (Larry the Reaper @ Aug 12 2007, 03:02 PM) | | If we have souls, where are they? |
If souls exist as many understand them to, things not a part of the physical realm, then it's quite possible that they may simply be undetectable and we'll never know.
| QUOTE (Larry) | | The Bible is a bunch of hard core Christians trying to make things more religious. |
This is also more of a "note" than a response, but I want to say that I would be surprised if the very first Christians weren't "hardcore."
| QUOTE (Larry) | | Anyway, the Loch Ness monster(s) are descendents of dinosaurs that fled to the oceans when Dino-geddon broke loose. The plates moved around, making the oppening through which they traveled to Loch Ness, which then sealed up. |
Where's you're solid proof for this, or at least a more detailed theory? In the meantime, let me just add that under tectonic plates is lava, and you might want to explain how they got through that.
Not picking on you or anything, Larry, but you just said more that I wanted to respond to than anyone else. |
I'm not sure if I should feel honored that you felt the need to respond only to me.
True, what I said was slightly contradictory, demanding solid proof, and then giving a whimsical theory, but hey, I'm young and stupid.
If the church my parents force me to attend is any basis, I'd say early Christians were more "Alright... Let's try this..." than hard-core. Anyway, somebody said miracles were exagerations, I think they were overlooking, or just plain stupid. Perhaps Jesus(I find it amusing that Anglos named him as it's spelled, but the name still exists, as 'Hay-soose') was damn lucky, arriving and 'curing' as antibodies completed the immunity to whatever the hell the desease was. This is highly unlucky, but still a possibility(be that chance .0000000001% or what have you)
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| QUOTE |
| If the church my parents force me to attend is any basis, I'd say early Christians were more "Alright... Let's try this..." than hard-core. |
You would have to hard core because Christians were constantly being killed. Around a couple million in the first century IIRC.
| QUOTE |
| was damn lucky, arriving and 'curing' as antibodies completed the immunity to whatever the hell the desease was. This is highly unlucky, but still a possibility(be that chance .0000000001% or what have you) |
He performed miracles that aren't associated with healing like walking on water etc. and then he brought a few people back from the dead.
Saying Jesus was a coincidence doesn't hold as much water since he fulfilled all of the 300 or something prophesies written hundreds and thousands of years prior to his birth.
Larry the Reaper - August 13, 2007 02:48 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (159951Mario @ Aug 13 2007, 08:17 AM) |
| QUOTE (Larry the Reaper @ Aug 12 2007, 11:34 PM) | | QUOTE (YokaiKnight @ Aug 12 2007, 11:23 PM) | | QUOTE (Larry the Reaper @ Aug 12 2007, 03:02 PM) | | If we have souls, where are they? |
If souls exist as many understand them to, things not a part of the physical realm, then it's quite possible that they may simply be undetectable and we'll never know.
| QUOTE (Larry) | | The Bible is a bunch of hard core Christians trying to make things more religious. |
This is also more of a "note" than a response, but I want to say that I would be surprised if the very first Christians weren't "hardcore."
| QUOTE (Larry) | | Anyway, the Loch Ness monster(s) are descendents of dinosaurs that fled to the oceans when Dino-geddon broke loose. The plates moved around, making the oppening through which they traveled to Loch Ness, which then sealed up. |
Where's you're solid proof for this, or at least a more detailed theory? In the meantime, let me just add that under tectonic plates is lava, and you might want to explain how they got through that.
Not picking on you or anything, Larry, but you just said more that I wanted to respond to than anyone else. |
I'm not sure if I should feel honored that you felt the need to respond only to me.
True, what I said was slightly contradictory, demanding solid proof, and then giving a whimsical theory, but hey, I'm young and stupid.
If the church my parents force me to attend is any basis, I'd say early Christians were more "Alright... Let's try this..." than hard-core. Anyway, somebody said miracles were exagerations, I think they were overlooking, or just plain stupid. Perhaps Jesus(I find it amusing that Anglos named him as it's spelled, but the name still exists, as 'Hay-soose') was damn lucky, arriving and 'curing' as antibodies completed the immunity to whatever the hell the desease was. This is highly unlucky, but still a possibility(be that chance .0000000001% or what have you)
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| QUOTE | | If the church my parents force me to attend is any basis, I'd say early Christians were more "Alright... Let's try this..." than hard-core. |
You would have to hard core because Christians were constantly being killed. Around a couple million in the first century IIRC.
| QUOTE | | was damn lucky, arriving and 'curing' as antibodies completed the immunity to whatever the hell the desease was. This is highly unlucky, but still a possibility(be that chance .0000000001% or what have you) |
He performed miracles that aren't associated with healing like walking on water etc. and then he brought a few people back from the dead.
Saying Jesus was a coincidence doesn't hold as much water since he fulfilled all of the 300 or something prophesies written hundreds and thousands of years prior to his birth.
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This is turning into a relidious debate X_X
Whatever. That assessment was made on the time there that I wasn't asleep.
@The Miracles part: The walking on wateris possible, but I'd have to look into how.
Without CPR or modern technology, returning the dead to life is impossible. End of story. It was probably CPR, since mostly it's described as reathing on people and such stuff that could be an early form of CPR.
159951Mario - August 13, 2007 03:15 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Larry the Reaper @ Aug 13 2007, 09:48 AM) |
| QUOTE (159951Mario @ Aug 13 2007, 08:17 AM) | | QUOTE (Larry the Reaper @ Aug 12 2007, 11:34 PM) | | QUOTE (YokaiKnight @ Aug 12 2007, 11:23 PM) | | QUOTE (Larry the Reaper @ Aug 12 2007, 03:02 PM) | | If we have souls, where are they? |
If souls exist as many understand them to, things not a part of the physical realm, then it's quite possible that they may simply be undetectable and we'll never know.
| QUOTE (Larry) | | The Bible is a bunch of hard core Christians trying to make things more religious. |
This is also more of a "note" than a response, but I want to say that I would be surprised if the very first Christians weren't "hardcore."
| QUOTE (Larry) | | Anyway, the Loch Ness monster(s) are descendents of dinosaurs that fled to the oceans when Dino-geddon broke loose. The plates moved around, making the oppening through which they traveled to Loch Ness, which then sealed up. |
Where's you're solid proof for this, or at least a more detailed theory? In the meantime, let me just add that under tectonic plates is lava, and you might want to explain how they got through that.
Not picking on you or anything, Larry, but you just said more that I wanted to respond to than anyone else. |
I'm not sure if I should feel honored that you felt the need to respond only to me.
True, what I said was slightly contradictory, demanding solid proof, and then giving a whimsical theory, but hey, I'm young and stupid.
If the church my parents force me to attend is any basis, I'd say early Christians were more "Alright... Let's try this..." than hard-core. Anyway, somebody said miracles were exagerations, I think they were overlooking, or just plain stupid. Perhaps Jesus(I find it amusing that Anglos named him as it's spelled, but the name still exists, as 'Hay-soose') was damn lucky, arriving and 'curing' as antibodies completed the immunity to whatever the hell the desease was. This is highly unlucky, but still a possibility(be that chance .0000000001% or what have you)
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| QUOTE | | If the church my parents force me to attend is any basis, I'd say early Christians were more "Alright... Let's try this..." than hard-core. |
You would have to hard core because Christians were constantly being killed. Around a couple million in the first century IIRC.
| QUOTE | | was damn lucky, arriving and 'curing' as antibodies completed the immunity to whatever the hell the desease was. This is highly unlucky, but still a possibility(be that chance .0000000001% or what have you) |
He performed miracles that aren't associated with healing like walking on water etc. and then he brought a few people back from the dead.
Saying Jesus was a coincidence doesn't hold as much water since he fulfilled all of the 300 or something prophesies written hundreds and thousands of years prior to his birth.
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This is turning into a relidious debate X_X
Whatever. That assessment was made on the time there that I wasn't asleep.
@The Miracles part: The walking on wateris possible, but I'd have to look into how.
Without CPR or modern technology, returning the dead to life is impossible. End of story. It was probably CPR, since mostly it's described as reathing on people and such stuff that could be an early form of CPR.
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You won't be able to explain hardly any of the miracles through science. Healing the blind with his spit would be impossible through science. Feeding 5,00 men with a a few loaves of bread and fish. Bringing a guy back to life who was dead for days, healing the deaf, and some other things can't be explained through science. That means he's either some kind of deity or it's a big lie. The latter isn't true since there are referances outside of the bible that speak of Jesus and miracles.
I think I'll stop now because this thing is on the verge of blowing up.