Title: Prostitution
Sety - September 30, 2007 06:50 PM (GMT)
So, as most of you should know, Prostitution is selling one's body for sexual purposes. As far as I can remember, it is illegal in all (or at least most) states. However, the men (and rarely women) who hire the prostitutes aren't arrested, yet the prostitutes are. What are your views on the subject?
Dez384 - September 30, 2007 10:07 PM (GMT)
People who use illegal goods or services should be punished at least by association.
Cody 10 - September 30, 2007 11:20 PM (GMT)
If on knows that they're doing something illegal, and does it anyway, they should be punished too.
Aeorys Kirru - September 30, 2007 11:23 PM (GMT)
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It's wrong. You use it, you're an accomplice; accomplices are arrested.
Jaffar - October 1, 2007 01:23 AM (GMT)
Actually! Prostitution is illegal in all but one(I think) state. The only state being is Nevada. You are thinking Las Vegas, yes? Ironically prostitution is illegal in Las Vegas but not most of Nevada.
Exxucus - October 1, 2007 02:07 AM (GMT)
^ Hunh. Never knew that, despite living in Nevada for 4 years. How, exactly, does the hirer get off scot free? Guilty by association, no debate.
Maraj - October 1, 2007 02:12 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Exxucus @ Sep 30 2007, 07:07 PM) |
| How, exactly, does the hirer get off scot free? |
Very skillful lawyers?
Inui - October 1, 2007 04:42 AM (GMT)
Usually the prostitute gets caught while the customer of said prostitute does not. That's why.
Gennaro - October 1, 2007 03:41 PM (GMT)
I don't really understand why it's illegal. I understand why it's horribly bad and everything, but why to make it illegal?
Black_Knight_456 - October 2, 2007 01:06 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Gennaro @ Oct 1 2007, 11:41 AM) |
| I don't really understand why it's illegal. I understand why it's horribly bad and everything, but why to make it illegal? |
Seriously, time could have been better thought coming up with more useful laws and such. Prostitutes and those who associate with them usually don't care for their lives as it is, and they aren't going to get any better if they keep it up. Punishment enough as far as I'm concerned.
Maraj - October 2, 2007 01:42 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Gennaro @ Oct 1 2007, 08:41 AM) |
| I don't really understand why it's illegal. I understand why it's horribly bad and everything, but why to make it illegal? |
I don't understand why it's horribly bad or why it's illegal. :/
Aeorys Kirru - October 2, 2007 01:52 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Maraj @ Oct 1 2007, 05:42 PM) |
| QUOTE (Gennaro @ Oct 1 2007, 08:41 AM) | | I don't really understand why it's illegal. I understand why it's horribly bad and everything, but why to make it illegal? |
I don't understand why it's horribly bad or why it's illegal. :/
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Morals. Something the world doesn't quite have enough of.
...plus, there's a little something called 'self-respect.'
Jaffar - October 2, 2007 01:55 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Maraj @ Oct 1 2007, 05:42 PM) |
| QUOTE (Gennaro @ Oct 1 2007, 08:41 AM) | | I don't really understand why it's illegal. I understand why it's horribly bad and everything, but why to make it illegal? |
I don't understand why it's horribly bad or why it's illegal. :/
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It's illegal because half the reason for government is to protect it's citizens from anything that may hurt them INCLUDING themselves. And since prostutition can hurt the prostitute, the government has to step in and say it's illegal.
Just like suicide, thats the person's choice but the government says it's illegal.
Maraj - October 2, 2007 02:09 AM (GMT)
AK: Why is having sex immoral now? Or self-degrading?
Jaffar: ...uh, no, that's utterly wrong. Just off the top of my head, construction workers' ...work... could potentially hurt them, but how's that illegal? They need the money to stay afloat, so they do potentially dangerous stuffz.
And the law against suicide is a joke.
Aeorys Kirru - October 2, 2007 02:20 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Maraj @ Oct 1 2007, 06:09 PM) |
| AK: Why is having sex immoral now? Or self-degrading? |
I wouldn't say intercourse, specifically. I'm talking about the very idea of selling oneself for money. However, as you're more than likely to continue debating whether it's moral or immoral, I'm going to stop here. I'd rather not know how low your value of person is. I'm non-religious, but I'm very conservative, and prostitution certainly does not fall underneath my definition of being conservative.
Maraj - October 2, 2007 02:27 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Aeorys Kirru @ Oct 1 2007, 07:20 PM) |
| QUOTE (Maraj @ Oct 1 2007, 06:09 PM) | | AK: Why is having sex immoral now? Or self-degrading? |
I wouldn't say intercourse, specifically. I'm talking about the very idea of selling oneself for money. However, as you're more than likely to continue debating whether it's moral or immoral, I'm going to stop here. I'd rather not know how low your value of person is. I'm non-religious, but I'm very conservative, and prostitution certainly does not fall underneath my definition of being conservative.
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wtf now I have no values. >_>
But okay.
Gennaro - October 2, 2007 02:28 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Jaffar @ Oct 1 2007, 08:55 PM) |
| QUOTE (Maraj @ Oct 1 2007, 05:42 PM) | | QUOTE (Gennaro @ Oct 1 2007, 08:41 AM) | | I don't really understand why it's illegal. I understand why it's horribly bad and everything, but why to make it illegal? |
I don't understand why it's horribly bad or why it's illegal. :/
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It's illegal because half the reason for government is to protect it's citizens from anything that may hurt them INCLUDING themselves.
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Cigarette and alcohol ftw?
swordsmen - October 2, 2007 06:35 PM (GMT)
ONLY READ FIRST POST,BUT MY DAD IS A COP AND AS FAR AS I KNOW,WHEN HE ARRESTS PROSTITUTES HE ARRESTS THE ONE WHO HIRED AS WELL <_<
sry about caps,my dad always leaves it on and i forgot to turn it off when i got home.
Before arrestying them both,some cops will have the prostitue drop there pants just for the hirer to find out he was about to be raped by what was truely a man XD
Sety - October 3, 2007 03:43 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Aeorys Kirru @ Oct 1 2007, 07:20 PM) |
| QUOTE (Maraj @ Oct 1 2007, 06:09 PM) | | AK: Why is having sex immoral now? Or self-degrading? |
I wouldn't say intercourse, specifically. I'm talking about the very idea of selling oneself for money. However, as you're more than likely to continue debating whether it's moral or immoral, I'm going to stop here. I'd rather not know how low your value of person is. I'm non-religious, but I'm very conservative, and prostitution certainly does not fall underneath my definition of being conservative.
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If a person doesn't value themself, them the government doesn't have to make them respect themself...
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| Cigarette and alcohol ftw? |
QFT
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| Just like suicide, thats the person's choice but the government says it's illegal. |
wtf, is that even practical? You can't go to jail after killing yourself.
Maraj - October 3, 2007 05:31 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Sety @ Oct 2 2007, 08:43 PM) |
| QUOTE | | Just like suicide, thats the person's choice but the government says it's illegal. |
wtf, is that even practical? You can't go to jail after killing yourself.
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| QUOTE (Maraj @ Oct 1 2007, 07:09 PM) |
| And the law against suicide is a joke. |
:hmm:
Cody 10 - October 3, 2007 09:55 PM (GMT)
Suicide is by no means illegal, end of story. >>
swordsmen - October 4, 2007 01:32 AM (GMT)
um i dont think its the idea of not caring for your self that makes it ilegall ...
more the spread of std's :X
Maraj - October 4, 2007 05:55 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (swordsmen @ Oct 3 2007, 06:32 PM) |
um i dont think its the idea of not caring for your self that makes it ilegall ...
more the spread of std's :X |
STDs are not limited by the exchange of money (or lack thereof, rather). :hmm:
swordsmen - October 4, 2007 07:31 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Maraj @ Oct 4 2007, 12:55 AM) |
| QUOTE (swordsmen @ Oct 3 2007, 06:32 PM) | um i dont think its the idea of not caring for your self that makes it ilegall ...
more the spread of std's :X |
STDs are not limited by the exchange of money (or lack thereof, rather). :hmm:
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I have no idea what you mean,but I doubt that in the case of prostitution someone will say or even hint of std's,and also as I said before, sometimes the women arent actualy women :X, things like rape and std's can come from prostitution.
Your thinking of it in a freedom way,like what they can or can't do with them selves, but this can be said the same for any laws,laws are made to limit or freedoms,laws gives us the freedom to do whats right,and i dont think any one wants aids :X. In a weird way you can compare this to drug laws like majuana(spelling?), they have the right to make such a law becuase such drugs injure your body, so the law is protecting you from these drugs .
Sety - October 5, 2007 02:00 AM (GMT)
Just because it can doesn't mean it will. If spread of STD's were illegal, condoms might as well go die since the carriers aren't having sex anyway.
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| such drugs injure your body, so the law is protecting you from these drugs . |
Cigarettes lol.
Gennaro - October 5, 2007 02:04 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Gennaro @ Oct 1 2007, 09:28 PM) |
| Cigarette and alcohol ftw? |
I will just quote myself again....
swordsmen - October 5, 2007 06:40 PM (GMT)
the tobaco companies are to powerfull to get rid of,people have attempted several time in the past
Sety - October 5, 2007 10:58 PM (GMT)
Um, okay? That doesn't mean that they should stay legalized.
swordsmen - October 6, 2007 12:27 AM (GMT)
yoiu know what would happen if we did that? all the money that would need to go somewhere? its to dangerous for the economy of certain states at this point, that why we were able to ban other things before they became a buisness like tobaco.
Maraj - October 6, 2007 01:10 AM (GMT)
I'm not even going to bother trying to respond, because it'd take way more effort than it's worth to even bother trying to parse your horribly mangled post. :/
Sety - October 6, 2007 02:08 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (swordsmen @ Oct 5 2007, 05:27 PM) |
| yoiu know what would happen if we did that? all the money that would need to go somewhere? its to dangerous for the economy of certain states at this point, that why we were able to ban other things before they became a buisness like tobaco. |
All the money that would be going to the tobacco companies would be going to waste how? People buy a pack a day. Considering the mortality rate of cigs (come to think of it, is it possible for people to die from long term weed use? >_>), that's a lot of money for the tobacco companies. I don't have numbers on me, however.
swordsmen - October 6, 2007 08:14 AM (GMT)
i DONT THINK YOU UNDESTAND,THE MONEY THE CURRENTLY HAVE,THE BILLIONS AND BILLIONS,WHERE WILL THAT GO? IT WOULD DISTABILIZE THE ECONOMY.
...oops caps lol.
Eniomus - October 6, 2007 11:32 AM (GMT)
You can't make laws that will cause large revolts. Period.
Gennaro - October 6, 2007 04:24 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Sety @ Oct 5 2007, 09:08 PM) |
| come to think of it, is it possible for people to die from long term weed use? >_> |
No. It isn't.
Maraj - October 6, 2007 06:38 PM (GMT)
Why are we talking about smoking now? >_>
Zephiel - October 7, 2007 12:52 AM (GMT)
I think that if a dude or a chick wants to sell thier lives away, they should be able to. It's not like either of them are doing anything like killing each other or doing bodily harm to each other -- it's not breaking any other laws IIRC. It's thier choice if they want to destroy thier lives, IMO.
Bizox - October 7, 2007 01:02 AM (GMT)
They are spreading STDs, though. They do have something to do with the fact that AIDS and other STDs are such an issue in society. It's not legal in many ways because of that. If STDs were as rare as brain-eating ameobas, then it might not be so controversial. Many more people would just be like "Meh, if they want to degrade themselves like that, go ahead." It might not even be illegal.
But STDs are running rampant among those sexually active, so it's illegal and rightly so.
Sety - October 7, 2007 01:27 AM (GMT)
Saying that all Prostitutes have STD's is a sterotype, for one thing. And if spreading STD's was a crime sexual activity would become illegal in itself without a blood test after every time you have sex with someone.
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You can't be serious.
Eniomus - October 7, 2007 02:00 AM (GMT)
If you have sex with a hundred people, you're a hundred times more likely to have an STD than someone who has sex with one person. Basic math.
And most people who have STDs won't share them with nearly as many people.
Sety - October 7, 2007 02:39 AM (GMT)
k. 1 Person getting infected with AIDS every 13 seconds clearly means everyone is protecting themselves.