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Title: Immortality
Description: Blessing or boredom?


Commander - November 8, 2007 01:14 PM (GMT)
Say you were given eternal youth, what would you do for eternity? Would you get bored as you traversed our universe, or would you be happy exploring the diversity of the trillions of civilizations in our ever expanding realm?

Dez384 - November 8, 2007 02:06 PM (GMT)
Immortality by its self isn't always good. My answer to your question would also depend if I was also invulnerable or had regenerative capabilities.

Commander - November 8, 2007 03:00 PM (GMT)
As every civilization grows, so does the technology within it. Perhaps humans will create all sorts of things before the sun gives out. But i doubt we are going to crate many biological superpowers. Looking at the technology we are investing in today, I'd say you'd get regenerative powers, increased strength, or the ability to feel no pain. Maybe you could get your hands on state-of-the-art (at the time) body armour. And you would have millions of years of knowledge and fighting experience. Maybe humans will end up as transforming giant robots. And who knows what aliens will come up with.

Sety - November 8, 2007 08:53 PM (GMT)
Assuming I couldn't die from something other then old age, I would want to die after a while. >.>

Commander - November 8, 2007 09:33 PM (GMT)
But what if you were needed to help resplve a conflict between civilizations, and more than just one conflict. There are billions of galaxies with billions of solar systems in those galaxies. And would the curiosity of exploration compel you to live?

Sety - November 8, 2007 10:07 PM (GMT)
Did you get this from a novel or something? >__>

In the off chance that I would be needed, I would just give the authority to someone else.

Commander - November 8, 2007 11:48 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sety @ Nov 8 2007, 05:07 PM)
Did you get this from a novel or something? >__>

I got it from daydreaming in science class

Aeorys Kirru - November 9, 2007 12:43 AM (GMT)
You mean ageless or immortal? Ageless means you will not grow old, though you are still mortal and may be dispatched via mortal methods. Immortality would mean you cannot die.

If ageless, I would sooner or later get killed by some freak chance; otherwise, I'd probably have to keep running about everywhere, using aliases and whatnot so that people won't grow suspicious of me.

Dez384 - November 9, 2007 12:58 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Aeorys Kirru @ Nov 8 2007, 08:43 PM)
You mean ageless or immortal? Ageless means you will not grow old, though you are still mortal and may be dispatched via mortal methods. Immortality would mean you cannot die.

If ageless, I would sooner or later get killed by some freak chance; otherwise, I'd probably have to keep running about everywhere, using aliases and whatnot so that people won't grow suspicious of me.

Aes Sedai

Eventually, you would resent your immortality. As everything you knew left, then you would resent your gift. Like how Macbeth in Gargoyles wanted to kill Demona so that he may die.

Diagon Dragnier - November 9, 2007 01:17 AM (GMT)
I'd love it, although it is obvious that I would grow bored of it ... I don't really care.

As for feeling no pain ... no thx. Pain is a way to indicate that you're doing it wrong.

Aeorys Kirru - November 9, 2007 01:22 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dez384 @ Nov 8 2007, 04:58 PM)
QUOTE (Aeorys Kirru @ Nov 8 2007, 08:43 PM)
You mean ageless or immortal? Ageless means you will not grow old, though you are still mortal and may be dispatched via mortal methods. Immortality would mean you cannot die.

If ageless, I would sooner or later get killed by some freak chance; otherwise, I'd probably have to keep running about everywhere, using aliases and whatnot so that people won't grow suspicious of me.

Aes Sedai

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LOL They only appear ageless. They'll eventually die of old age.

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Dez384 - November 9, 2007 01:45 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Aeorys Kirru @ Nov 8 2007, 09:22 PM)
QUOTE (Dez384 @ Nov 8 2007, 04:58 PM)
QUOTE (Aeorys Kirru @ Nov 8 2007, 08:43 PM)
You mean ageless or immortal? Ageless means you will not grow old, though you are still mortal and may be dispatched via mortal methods. Immortality would mean you cannot die.

If ageless, I would sooner or later get killed by some freak chance; otherwise, I'd probably have to keep running about everywhere, using aliases and whatnot so that people won't grow suspicious of me.

Aes Sedai

<offtopic>

LOL They only appear ageless. They'll eventually die of old age.

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The ones without the three oaths live long enough. 700 years?

Anyways, immortality seems great in the immediate future, but eventually it gets tiring.

Commander - November 9, 2007 02:44 AM (GMT)
Aeo: in my 1st post, I stated "Eternal Youth"

But how long is a while? I, on the other hand, would be kept alive on sheer curiosity to explore the billions upon billions of civilizations and all they have to offer. Not to mention we do not know what is beyond the visible universe, nor do we know of what is within parallel universes.

What if you spent eternity with someone else who was also eternally young?

Dez384 - November 9, 2007 02:51 AM (GMT)
What if there is nothing out there?

Diagon Dragnier - November 9, 2007 03:09 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dez384 @ Nov 8 2007, 06:51 PM)
What if there is nothing out there?

The Universe is thought the be infinite, right?

Dez384 - November 9, 2007 03:51 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Diagon Dragnier @ Nov 8 2007, 11:09 PM)
QUOTE (Dez384 @ Nov 8 2007, 06:51 PM)
What if there is nothing out there?

The Universe is thought the be infinite, right?

yes it is infinite, but that doesn't gaurantee that other civilizations will be out there. Also, the time to travel between worlds would be so great, how could one sustain oneself during the voyage? Does Eternal youth grant immunity from starvation?

Diagon Dragnier - November 9, 2007 04:31 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dez384 @ Nov 8 2007, 07:51 PM)
QUOTE (Diagon Dragnier @ Nov 8 2007, 11:09 PM)
QUOTE (Dez384 @ Nov 8 2007, 06:51 PM)
What if there is nothing out there?

The Universe is thought the be infinite, right?

yes it is infinite, but that doesn't gaurantee that other civilizations will be out there. Also, the time to travel between worlds would be so great, how could one sustain oneself during the voyage? Does Eternal youth grant immunity from starvation?

Lets do this one step at a time.

In an infinite amount of space, anything (infinite amount of things) can occur? With an infinite amount of space then our entire galaxy has a copy of it's self out there with the same exact people discussing the same exact things we are. Correct?

Aeorys Kirru - November 9, 2007 05:38 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Commander @ Nov 8 2007, 06:44 PM)
Aeo: in my 1st post, I stated "Eternal Youth"

But how long is a while? I, on the other hand, would be kept alive on sheer curiosity to explore the billions upon billions of civilizations and all they have to offer. Not to mention we do not know what is beyond the visible universe, nor do we know of what is within parallel universes.

What if you spent eternity with someone else who was also eternally young?

Aye, but your topic title is 'Immortality?'

You eventually lose interest. Too many bad things will outweigh the good things in the future, and you'll tire of life and experiencing it all; you've seen it before, and you know you'll see it again.

If you love the person, that's fine, but eternal love is pretty much impossible. Like life, you'll tire of love.

Diagon Dragnier - November 9, 2007 05:52 AM (GMT)
It's only eternal youth ... so you could die before you experience all that much.

Commander - November 9, 2007 01:51 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Diagon Dragnier @ Nov 8 2007, 11:31 PM)
QUOTE (Dez384 @ Nov 8 2007, 07:51 PM)
QUOTE (Diagon Dragnier @ Nov 8 2007, 11:09 PM)
QUOTE (Dez384 @ Nov 8 2007, 06:51 PM)
What if there is nothing out there?

The Universe is thought the be infinite, right?

yes it is infinite, but that doesn't gaurantee that other civilizations will be out there. Also, the time to travel between worlds would be so great, how could one sustain oneself during the voyage? Does Eternal youth grant immunity from starvation?

Lets do this one step at a time.

In an infinite amount of space, anything (infinite amount of things) can occur? With an infinite amount of space then our entire galaxy has a copy of it's self out there with the same exact people discussing the same exact things we are. Correct?

It shall be almost one million years before the sun expands and destroys the earth and gives out. World peace (hopefully) will be obtained by then so the world will be focused on faster space travel, larger spacecraft, medicine, and defense against any hostile aliens. So say you were able to get your hands on a vehicle capable of hyperspace travel, which would allow you to travel between galaxies, which is a very, very HUGE void, in 2 weeks time, and even less time between solar systems. You would also have the option of the items I said would be available in a previous post, meaning you could choose to take any of the items off the table. Also you had a talent for espionage assignments from a previous occupation on Earth, so if need be, get in and out of places where humanoids are not welcome with the supplies you need to survive. And using the technology you have, resolve a war in another civilization along your travels. On one hand, if this is all you do forever until the universe remakes itself again, this is boring.

But what if the universe somehow got word of immortal people were wandering the universe, and some criminals obtained immortality. And they started to spread chaos wherever they went, would you choose to stop them. What if technology progressed to such a manner that any with immortality gave up human form and became a giant robot that could transform into a mechanical vehicle? Yes that is a transformer, but in about a million years, it may be possible, and awesome.

Sety - November 9, 2007 09:37 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Diagon Dragnier @ Nov 8 2007, 10:52 PM)
It's only eternal youth ... so you could die before you experience all that much.

Eternal Youth suggests that you are young for all eternity... Thus not dying <_<

Commander - November 10, 2007 12:37 AM (GMT)
Perhaps it would be better to traverse the universe as a giant robot...

Aeorys Kirru - November 10, 2007 12:42 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sety @ Nov 9 2007, 01:37 PM)
QUOTE (Diagon Dragnier @ Nov 8 2007, 10:52 PM)
It's only eternal youth ... so you could die before you experience all that much.

Eternal Youth suggests that you are young for all eternity... Thus not dying <_<

-_- Plenty of people die young. [e.g. - shot, run over, hit by a car, drowning...]

Gennaro - November 10, 2007 02:38 AM (GMT)
@AK: He is trying to say that you will stay forever young, so you won't die of AGE. He didn't specify the situation in any other occurrence.

Commander - November 10, 2007 03:23 AM (GMT)
I did specify that you would have advanced earth tech. Leaving only suicide, suffocation, drowning, starvation, and dehydration.

Sety - November 10, 2007 04:37 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Aeorys Kirru @ Nov 9 2007, 05:42 PM)
QUOTE (Sety @ Nov 9 2007, 01:37 PM)
QUOTE (Diagon Dragnier @ Nov 8 2007, 10:52 PM)
It's only eternal youth ... so you could die before you experience all that much.

Eternal Youth suggests that you are young for all eternity... Thus not dying <_<

-_- Plenty of people die young. [e.g. - shot, run over, hit by a car, drowning...]

I didn't say indestructible %::%

Diagon Dragnier - November 10, 2007 11:09 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Commander @ Nov 9 2007, 05:51 AM)
QUOTE (Diagon Dragnier @ Nov 8 2007, 11:31 PM)
QUOTE (Dez384 @ Nov 8 2007, 07:51 PM)
QUOTE (Diagon Dragnier @ Nov 8 2007, 11:09 PM)
QUOTE (Dez384 @ Nov 8 2007, 06:51 PM)
What if there is nothing out there?

The Universe is thought the be infinite, right?

yes it is infinite, but that doesn't gaurantee that other civilizations will be out there. Also, the time to travel between worlds would be so great, how could one sustain oneself during the voyage? Does Eternal youth grant immunity from starvation?

Lets do this one step at a time.

In an infinite amount of space, anything (infinite amount of things) can occur? With an infinite amount of space then our entire galaxy has a copy of it's self out there with the same exact people discussing the same exact things we are. Correct?

It shall be almost one million years before the sun expands and destroys the earth and gives out. World peace (hopefully) will be obtained by then so the world will be focused on faster space travel, larger spacecraft, medicine, and defense against any hostile aliens. So say you were able to get your hands on a vehicle capable of hyperspace travel, which would allow you to travel between galaxies, which is a very, very HUGE void, in 2 weeks time, and even less time between solar systems. You would also have the option of the items I said would be available in a previous post, meaning you could choose to take any of the items off the table. Also you had a talent for espionage assignments from a previous occupation on Earth, so if need be, get in and out of places where humanoids are not welcome with the supplies you need to survive. And using the technology you have, resolve a war in another civilization along your travels. On one hand, if this is all you do forever until the universe remakes itself again, this is boring.

But what if the universe somehow got word of immortal people were wandering the universe, and some criminals obtained immortality. And they started to spread chaos wherever they went, would you choose to stop them. What if technology progressed to such a manner that any with immortality gave up human form and became a giant robot that could transform into a mechanical vehicle? Yes that is a transformer, but in about a million years, it may be possible, and awesome.

I lol'd

Anyways, yeah it COULD get boring, but because you'll eventually die the chances that you'll hit that point are very very very slim.

And I could stalk myself for quite a while and be content. : D

Linkssword - November 10, 2007 05:06 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Diagon Dragnier @ Nov 10 2007, 06:09 AM)
QUOTE (Commander @ Nov 9 2007, 05:51 AM)
QUOTE (Diagon Dragnier @ Nov 8 2007, 11:31 PM)
QUOTE (Dez384 @ Nov 8 2007, 07:51 PM)
QUOTE (Diagon Dragnier @ Nov 8 2007, 11:09 PM)
QUOTE (Dez384 @ Nov 8 2007, 06:51 PM)
What if there is nothing out there?

The Universe is thought the be infinite, right?

yes it is infinite, but that doesn't gaurantee that other civilizations will be out there. Also, the time to travel between worlds would be so great, how could one sustain oneself during the voyage? Does Eternal youth grant immunity from starvation?

Lets do this one step at a time.

In an infinite amount of space, anything (infinite amount of things) can occur? With an infinite amount of space then our entire galaxy has a copy of it's self out there with the same exact people discussing the same exact things we are. Correct?

It shall be almost one million years before the sun expands and destroys the earth and gives out. World peace (hopefully) will be obtained by then so the world will be focused on faster space travel, larger spacecraft, medicine, and defense against any hostile aliens. So say you were able to get your hands on a vehicle capable of hyperspace travel, which would allow you to travel between galaxies, which is a very, very HUGE void, in 2 weeks time, and even less time between solar systems. You would also have the option of the items I said would be available in a previous post, meaning you could choose to take any of the items off the table. Also you had a talent for espionage assignments from a previous occupation on Earth, so if need be, get in and out of places where humanoids are not welcome with the supplies you need to survive. And using the technology you have, resolve a war in another civilization along your travels. On one hand, if this is all you do forever until the universe remakes itself again, this is boring.

But what if the universe somehow got word of immortal people were wandering the universe, and some criminals obtained immortality. And they started to spread chaos wherever they went, would you choose to stop them. What if technology progressed to such a manner that any with immortality gave up human form and became a giant robot that could transform into a mechanical vehicle? Yes that is a transformer, but in about a million years, it may be possible, and awesome.

I lol'd

Anyways, yeah it COULD get boring, but because you'll eventually die the chances that you'll hit that point are very very very slim.

And I could stalk myself for quite a while and be content. : D

Someone has a big imagination <___<;

I'd be fine stalking you too DH : D

Inuyasha Lover - November 11, 2007 11:23 PM (GMT)
I think you guys might be thinking a little to hard on this.

I think it would be kinda fun to live forever. you could travel all over the world. become very rich. You can try out many different jobs. Also see what happens in the future.
I'd probably do all that and more. maybe even adopt lots of children. I guess it might even get boring and lonely at sometimes.

Sety - November 11, 2007 11:33 PM (GMT)
^As fun as it would be for the first maybe 10 or so years past your normal life expectancy, you would get bored of the earth eventually.

Commander - November 12, 2007 12:21 AM (GMT)
The earth will not last forever. And like I said before, yo could travel the universe embracing the cultures and wonders of countless alien civilizations till the end of our universe

Sety - November 12, 2007 03:02 AM (GMT)
This is assuming that:

A: You don't die of a non-age related accident before the earth dies (4 billion years iirc)
B: We have the technology to do such a thing by then (Not so hard to believe...)
C: There are even other life forms out there.

Commander - November 12, 2007 03:11 AM (GMT)
It's a simple ethics question. In this situation, possible or not, is that you have the ability to live forever and stay young forever. You have live the amount of time the earth has left and then leave with a craft capable of hyperspace travel. The only goals you can think of living for are to explore alien civilizations and rid them of malice based suppression (evil). You also have the technology and experience to get whatever supplies you need when you need them.

So, would you grow tired of doing this or wish to experience all you can?

ImortalDeamon - November 30, 2007 09:27 PM (GMT)
I can see your getting some of this from Warhammer 40k. But yeah, if i was immortal I would want to be a god, an omniscient one at that. Just will what you want to be. No one say that that would get boring because you could do anything you wanted for forever. And if you got lonely you could just make friends, and they wouldn't be fake because your a god, who is omniscient.

Kombat_911 - November 30, 2007 10:39 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
But what if the universe somehow got word of immortal people were wandering the universe, and some criminals obtained immortality. And they started to spread chaos wherever they went, would you choose to stop them.


all right dude, ur drifting now

i personally would not like to live forever. the everyone i knew loved, used to know would all DIE n ill just keep on moving on.

I'll just meet generations of people and people.. and everyone will just keep dying. =/ i get extremely upset when a pet LEAVES let alone dies. now for humans, its gotta suck. only reason why i would wanna last that long is just to see how far everything advances and what gets us in the end

ImortalDeamon - December 1, 2007 01:52 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kombat_911 @ Nov 30 2007, 05:39 PM)
QUOTE
But what if the universe somehow got word of immortal people were wandering the universe, and some criminals obtained immortality. And they started to spread chaos wherever they went, would you choose to stop them.


all right dude, ur drifting now

i personally would not like to live forever. the everyone i knew loved, used to know would all DIE n ill just keep on moving on.

I'll just meet generations of people and people.. and everyone will just keep dying. =/ i get extremely upset when a pet LEAVES let alone dies. now for humans, its gotta suck. only reason why i would wanna last that long is just to see how far everything advances and what gets us in the end

Thats a good reason.




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