Since no one else really needed the BEXP in the first part, I dumped it all on her until she promoted. Now she's unstoppable.

I wish I had her in part 2 Dx

I still think she sucks. D=

What were her stats?

Can't remember other then she capped Skill, Speed, and Magic well before she promoted.

Not that it's hard, what with that 16 speed cap or whatever it is D:

It's not like she can be doubled though. Only /really/ fast enemies.

How about making a better unit into a God instead of a mediocre healer into a mediocre attacker?

Saving it for Halberdier Aran and S. Master Eddie in Part 3 > Dumping it on Laura in Part 1.

Have you even tried Laura?

That wimpy healer who heals less than a Vulnerary and is consistently one rounded?

Who even has enough health to need to use a Vulnerary in her part? And when you use a Vulnerary that unit becomes useless in that turn. And she heals for 18 the chapter you get her.

Supports with Nolan + a few BEXP levels cover that. Even so, wtf is she doing getting attacked?

lol no

Why give her supports with Nolan when Edward could use those supports even more? Laura may be needed elsewhere most of the time, while Edward could always fight alongside Nolan. They can practically solo chapters.

This killed your argument even more.
Why the heck would she need a Nolan support, which only give accuracy and avoid (accuracy being useless for a LONG time), if she isn't getting attacked?

Acc is actually a decent bonus in this game since units struggle to hit reliably.

She shouldn't be getting attacked, yes. If she does somehow, her massive avoid covers it. And Nolan isn't exactly the fastest unit out there, and gets hit often.

To Laura?!
The only one it would benefit for a LONG time is Nolan, and do you want a healer following him the entire time just for that bonus, especially since Eddie gives the same bonus?!

wtfno

Not rly. Enemies are really accurate in this game, ya know. When Nolan's around, their hit% against her will just go from like 90 to like 70, and the majority of them double attack her for a while.

I've never seen Laura get attacked by an enemy with more then 40% chance of hitting her.

This was before the support hit A too.

Let alone that their real hit at 70 is like.... 82?

Yeah, she won't dodge much.

Well, I've never tried unloading all my BExp onto her, so I guess I wouldn't exactly know firsthand...

Who else would you give BEXP to?

Micaiah, Nolan, Edward, Aran, etc.
She is a waste of a combat unit due to her caps failing, so why give her BEXP? Micaiah is a much better healer upon gaining staves, which even conveniently starts at C.

Eddo and Micaiah and...pretty much anyone I'm using that needs to catch up. That's what I do, anyway.

Micaiah gets Paragon. Her not being level 20 by the end of her part is nearly impossible.

Edward and Nolan have no problems getting to level 20/1 by themselves.

I didn't use Aran, but he doesn't seem hard to train either.

Nolan x Aran

C
.8 Def
10 Avo

B
1.6 Def
20 Avo

A
2.4 Def
30 Avo

With Laura you trade in the .8 defense boost for a 2.5 hit boost. Lawl, If he needed to hit so badly make him support... Meg or something. Even Edward's .8 defense boost can beat out her 2.5 avoid boost (both give hit) when he comes earlier.

2.5 hit is basically nothing. At A level support it gives 7.5, which is how much he'd get in one level by supporting Meg. C Meg is easier to get than A Laura too.

Huh?

5 base Spd ftl

...do you BEXP her?

By "a while", I meant until after chapter six. You don't have enough BExp to really get her up there until then. Before that, the ones who don't double her will one-hit her instead, from my experence.

@Sety: Why should Micaiah get Paragon? I've never had trouble training her.

Uhhh, maybe a chapter or two will Micaiah have better spd than her. Seeing as healers are generally the units that get the majority of the BEXP.

Bexp would be better saved up and then given to Micky when she hits level 17 or so and has capped half her stats, so you can crank up her speed and def.


I wish people would use Bexp smartly instead of dumbly.

Healers are more justified than most units for getting BEXP because they don't take away from the main exp pool.

Define 'dumbly'.

What's funny is that Michaiah doesn't cap any stats at level 17.

If we go by stat-slowed she tachnically can't cap anything because she could just as easily get screwed. :hmm:

Level 17 chances to cap:

HP: 0%
Str: 0%
Mag: 60%
SKl: 0%
Spd: 0%
Lck: 0%
Def: 0%
Res: 20%

Yeah, definitely half of her stats. Looks more like a cumulative 0-1 stats to me. Even if she caps Mag, her combined growths are over 300%. Meaning if you used Bexp her speed growth would go _down_.

QFT.

The only way to measure Laura not taking combat EXP away from other units when she's used is by giving her that much BEXP. When you do that, she w1ns massively. 2 functions >>>

When I said Level 17, I was referring to her second and third promotions, where's she'll be capping magic, res, and later, luck.

Wait, why are we giving Laura bexp? That's just going to make her stats worse. :\

Stop being stupid with your bexp, people. Maybe this is why I can beat HM and you guys can't.

Solid can beat hard mode. The only person I ever recall saying that they couldn't beat is is Sentenal.

Also,

You'll have plenty of BEXP for both of them by then. This is durring part one that we're talking about.

I don't recall having ever said I couldn't beat it. Besides, to stay up to par with other units, she'll need BEXP, especially if she doesn't want to be ORKO'd. I don't see anything stupid about using BEXP on Laura. If you plan on using her, not giving her BEXP is stupid.

Micaiah only promotes twice. Besides, if you decide to use Laura instead of Elincia or something, she'll still be better because she can promote whenever she feels like it.

The reason I can use BEXPing Laura in a debate is because she does take from the combat experience pool. Micaiah has the ability not to sure, but that's more than countered by the fact that she needs to be healed after every time she does heal. Basically, using BEXP on Micaiah counters any good she would make of it, whereas using it on Laura just results in a few level ups and maybe better stats.

And HM is more tedious than hard. I don't know where you got the idea we can't beat it. <__<;;

I talked to Inui and he said he is still on part three.

I told Banzai that because I assumed everyone was trying to beat it as efficiently as possible whereas Banzai probably spent 1000+ turns on it (he even admitted to it).

Beating it =/= beating it efficiently %::%