Sorry for what? The bad porn, the insults, or something else I missed?

I'll believe the video release when I see it -- 5 yrs after the fact...

No here was the beginning of the letter, I just shortened it up...

i smell bull$hit. please, bronco, prove me wrong.

I think it will be released.

Let's weigh the options...

1) It's gonna show something that looks like a 757.

2) It's gonna show something that looks definitively like a 757

3) It's going to show a quick silver blur

4) It's going to show a quick silver blur and a vapor trail

5) It's going to show a 757 flying in and an explosion. But not a 757 hitting the Pentagon.

6) It will show a missile, a small military plane, and/or damaging evidence that helps bring down the American Gov't. We know this is not the case. Because the tape was obviously shown at the trial.

I personally think it will be 1, 4 or 5. They have too much to lose by matching it to the surveillance video on the ground as it would prove to be too difficult.

[hmm]

you think it was shown at the trial? i didn't hear Word 1 about it.

I think they will have used the same director/producer team that brought us the "First Man on the Moon" video :lol:

That was reported in only one publication. And that was the official reason for them holding onto the tape. But yes, they did reportedly show the tape at the trial.

But how real was this trial? It was barely covered. We have all day coverage of the OJ trial, but nightly little blips summarizing the trial. We get live footage of the OJ trial. We get sketches of the Moussaoui trial. The whole thing couild have been one big psy-op as far as I am concened.

Agreed. :D

Merc,
Hopefully you have patched things up with this guy.
He may not be sympathetic to our movement, but he is not somebody we need to be enemies with.
I'm really looking forward to seeing those damn tapes!
-Neo

oh, t'was. no question. :D

I hear you. But personally what he did was seriously messed up. My kid or family could have seen that trash. I would rather not just forgive and forget, just yet. We will ALL see the video regardless of our conflict.

Personally, I find the timing very interesting between our little conflict and the sudden release of this video. IMO.

:blink:

The trial judge decides whether or not cameras will be allowed in the courtroom. It is rare for this to be done, and most judges and attorneys don't like it for obvious reasons. It's why you don't see cameras inside the Supreme Court, and why people have gotten used to seeing courtroom cases dramatized by sketches. The OJ case was unique, because Judge Ito allowed the proceedings to be filmed. He was criticized for this, and many attorneys and judges predicted the trial would become a media circus, and it did.

Judge Brinkema in the Moussaoui trial elected not to have televised coverage of the proceedings, as is her right, and this is consistent with the way courtroom cases are generally handled in this country. The trial was extensively covered by media outlets all over the world, and the exhibits in the case are available on the web.

Edit: not sure if transcripts of the testimony are actually available. I know the exhibits are for sure.

I can understand trials not being televised but I think it only makes sense to record them for the public record and to be viewed after the fact.

Let's start the betting pool.

My bet is the silver blob. [rock]

You are confusing having the case televised(OJ trial) and having cameras in the courtroom for documenting history.

:o

early even??

hmmm... do you trust that?

took the words right out of my mouth, Merc. flight77.info, the Moussaoui trial, and United 93 all ended up coming to the forefront right around the same time.

i vote for the silver blob too. :D

Yep just saw something on fox news about this a couple of minutes ago. The DoD are releasing a video that aparently shows a plane hitting the pentagon.

Now this will be interesting..... No doubt though it will be very sketchy and inconculsive.

Yeah it's all just too wierd.

Something is up definitely.

Like what?

I'm saying it's going to be #1 or #2, and that will be followed by a whole new salvo of 'Video Fakery' Threads. This is going to be like finding a cat turd in your breakfast cereal for alot of people in the truth movement.

What if it does show a BOEING 757 slam into the Pentagon? Then what do we do? No one will believe us anymore, becuase everyone will say, "Go look at the Pentagon Video." What are your thoughts on how we should handle this video if infact it is a BOEING 757.

Hey HDB,

How,ve you been?

It won't bother me a bit whatever they come out with because we played the hand we were dealt. Nobody came up with the idea out of the blue and just decided to say, " You know what? It would meake me feel good to say there was no plane at the pentagon". It's not what happned.

There was only a small amount of 'debris' (shades of Shanksville), no visible bodies, no discernable luggage or seats and the 'hole' being the size it was indicated to many if not most viewers that there should have been a lot more debris left outside the building.

Like I said, we played the cards we were dealt. Knowing that the buildings were control demolitioned and a part of a military psychological operation, even a good police detective would at the very least consider, given the available evidence, or in this case lack of, that no 767 hit the pentagon.

I make no apologies for my opinion.

No matter what, it takes absoultely nothing away ftrom the controlled demolitions.

Get to the employees that worked at the Sheraton. They know what they saw.

I don't care what they have created. Eyewitness accounts would refute that. And by the way... they would have to match the scene at the Pentagon. They would also have to explain how they got DNA if they really show a plane exploding.

too many conflicts

So you are going to negate the video regardless of what is on it?

i have searched this story on a number of news websites..where is the story from? is it true? links please? <_<

I have to agree with HDB here, if they do show a BOEING people will not accept this as truth, and work around the clock at debunking the video and say it was a fakery.

sean,

It is what is is.

Turn on your news! 1PM they just said their showing footage of a plane hitting the Pentagon

Note: They said the videos at the gas station and hotel do NOT exist....

thats gotta be BS

Sean,

So what if it shows a '767'?

What does this have to do with the controlled demolition of the towers?

This ought to be interesting. I'm very eager to see the angle at which the plane approached and impacted.

can we cut this accusation bullshit out and be patient and wait until the tape is released before you start calling people names?

thanks.

My bet is an doctored video. They are not releasing the VDOT, Citgo, or Sheraton tapes because they "didn't capture the plane" as Merc told me.


So why are they confiscated and classified and the one tape showing a Sept 12th date is getting released?


This is an attempt to discredit the truth movement. Brace yourself, our numbers have grown immensely and we're about to suffer a major strike.

Its quite appauling how long this has taken to be released. They can make King Kong in a few years im sure they can manage a plane in 5.

This is only good news, the 911 truth movement has forced the government to defend its self. I think this is a huge victory on our part.

Going on 5 years and no one has idenitified one of them and none of them are popping out of the woodwork to say "I saw the plane hit the building".......

45 minutes.. watch FOX!