After reading Gypsy's post, I decided to look through the terms of service for invisionfree. I believe it's a bad idea to be using a free host such as invisionfree for such a sensitive topic, especially if you look at some of the heated arguments. It appears they are willing to close down any message board which discusses contraversial topics which they may not agree with. If someone wanted these forums closed down, all they have to do is make 1 post which contains anything that breaks the rules and get a bunch of people to report it.


3.1 Prohibited Content:
Users may not post, upload, link to, or email any Content that contains, promotes, gives instruction about, or provides prohibited Content. Prohibited Content includes any Content that breaks any local, state, county, national or international law. Prohibited Content also includes: (a) Content that infringes upon any rights (including, but not limited to, copyrights and trademarks); (B) Abusive, threatening, defamatory, racist, or obscene Content; © Viruses or any other harmful computer software; (d) False information or libel; (e) Spam, chain letters, or pyramid schemes; (f) Gambling or Illicit drugs; (g) Terrorism; (h) Hacking or cheating Content for internet/online games; (i) Warez, Roms, CD-Keys, Cracks, Passwords, or Serial Numbers; (j) Pornography, nudity, or sexual material of any kind; (k) Excessive profanity; (l) Content that is invasive of privacy or impersonation of any person/entity; and (m) Hacking materials or information.
Repeat copyright infringers will have access to InvisionFree terminated.

As you can see, I have defamatory, invasive, false information and libel in bold, not because I believe that this forum contains that, but unfortunately the terms are broad and a matter of opinion. For instance, what we know to be true may be false information or libel to those who havent looked much into it, or just flat out do not believe. This means that if enough people complain and invisionfree agrees with them, this forum can be shutdown at any time.

6 Termination of the Service:
You agree that InvisionFree may delete any board owned by you and/or your account on any InvisionFree board. InvisionFree may ban your email address, username, IP Address or remove/change any Content from any board or from your account, without notice or compensation. Your account or board may be deleted for any violation of the InvisionFree Terms of Use or for any reason deemed necessary. InvisionFree may not explain why your account/board/Content was deleted or edited.


I think the admins need to consider backing up the database and installing invision power board to a paid host or a home pc, if not, our fate lies in their hands. If nobody wants to host it on a home pc and money is an issue (which i doubt), you could always add a few adsense ads like invisionfree does, with the amount of traffic that this forum gets, you could easily pay off the hosting fees with just the ads. Places like 1&1 offer a pretty nice hosting service for like 10 bucks a month @ 1 terrabyte bandwidth and 100 gb web space.

Just a suggestion :)

So, just how many threads do we need on this topic ?

I looked through all 3 pages of this section and found nothing relating to what im talking about, if I missed a thread, I apologize and go ahead and delete this thread. By the way, your link doesnt appear to be working.

I don't see what this quote has to do with this thread.. or even what you said about there being "many threads about this topic". Im talking about the rules and regulations of invisionfree, not the patriot act. There's a very big difference there.

Now go read the patriot act.

Right, then you agree with me that its a gamble to be using invisionfree. Glad we're on the same page :)

I do not consider it being a gamble, merely a "stepping stone".

Eventually invisionfree will crack down and terminate this site. There have been many, many broken "rules" to allow them to do this.
I accept this. Does it mean the end of our cause ? Absolutely not.
WHEN that happens we will simply aquire a new site and start over knowing what we now know.
This new site will probably not even be based in the USA so as to avoid the ramifications of the so called patriot act.

The true perps have spent decades, if not centuries, planning, plotting, and moulding todays events. If we do not do the same, then this is truly a lost cause.

Singling out a post made by a true patriot ( Gypsy ) is not the solution to the problem.

Are we still on the same page ?

Nm, just delete this thread. If you took the time to read the thread you would know that im not attacking gypsy at all, this has nothing to do with her, it's about the host shutting down forums for any reason they see fit, which means a jrefer for instance can make a post, then have us shut down, which would be their wet dream. But if you have no problem with losing all of the information we have gathered in this time, then what can I say.

Forgive me Slick, I was jumping around threads this morning and several dealt with the TOS of this site. I confused this topic with the others.

Truthfully, not a whole lot of new info has surfaced since this site came to be which is not better documented elsewhere on the net, this is why I am not so concerned with the enivatable coming to pass, even if there were, there are backups made on a regular basis which are stored off-site.

The main problem would be in having all the members locate the new site, but even that is really not a problem so long as they registered with a true email address........ and the ones who didn't, well should they really be here anyway ?



Don't sweat the small stuff.

[cheers] and sorry.

No problem man, life's too short to get upset over stupid little things. :) [cheers]

>Don't sweat the small stuff.

I think a bigger issue is not knowing who the admins are, or what info they have access to. It's getting hard to fathom how the Loose Change Forum can be hosted on a public server.

It's damn easy to set up your own too. And cheap. Maybe $2000 for the first year (including hardware) and initial setup would take about a week.

Initial setup would take less than a day, and all you need is a personal pc. At one point, I had over 10 sites hosted on my pc, all running at a decent speed. If you have a dynamic IP, then just use a free dynamics DNS like everydns for instance.

>Initial setup would take less than a day

That's true heh :)

>and all you need is a personal pc. At one point, I had over 10 sites hosted on my pc, all running at a decent speed.

Well you would need some kind of hosting, a cable modem is only about 200kbytes upstream which is about 30 modems. It'll work up to a point. Certainly you could do all the development & prototyping at home.

As long as the MTU is optimized beyond window's stupid default or they are using Linux, I highly doubt that the traffic from this forum would cause much of a problem. Keep in mind, the http procotcol is start/stop, so unless everyone is constantly refreshing, or they do any sort of streaming it should have no problems. But that is just my opinion :)

>Keep in mind, the http procotcol is start/stop, so unless everyone is constantly refreshing, or they do any sort of streaming it should have no problems.

I like the way you think!