Title: Word Bearers
Description: All praise to the Emperor! (kinda...)
lord_caldera - October 12, 2008 01:40 AM (GMT)
Hey everyone! New to these boards though I see some familiar people from others. I've been thinking about a new army for some time and preheresy is awesome! I love the Word Bearers background so decided on them, with a slight variation on the color scheme to suit my tastes more.
This is the 2000 list for the army I'm planning:
HQ
High Chaplain Something-Or-Other (counts as Sicarius)
Elites
2x Dreadnought (multi-melta, drop pod)
5-man Terminator Squad (heavy flamer, chainfist, Land Raider)
Troops
2x 10-man Tactical Squad (flamer, power weapon, Rhino w/extra armor)
2x 10-man Tactical Squad (plasma gun, heavy bolter)
Heavy Support
2x Thunderfire Cannon
5-man Devastator Squad (4x missile launcher)
Chaplain goes with the Termies (gotta love the 12-man transport capacity) for assault. Now I know some of you are probably raging at some of my choices because of the new Codex, but let me explain them. Word Bearers draw strength from their faith in their Chaplains and since Sicarius is now the only character with Rites of Battle I thought he would make an ideal commander. Plus, with all of the ancient technologies discovered during the Great Crusade his equipment should be pretty easy to pass off. And I always wanted to convert Grimaldus....Thunderfire cannons rock and are close enough to the Thudd Gun to work with the preheresy theme. Very little plasma and melta, though I admit I'm not a huge fan myself of the Dreadnoughts but I'm using the AoBR Dreads.
Any thoughts?
Lord Caldera
Yvraith - October 12, 2008 03:33 AM (GMT)
First of all welcome to the forum, Lord Caldera!
Looks ok, but you might want to think about taking another troop choice.
Maybe loose one of your Dreads and one of your thunderfire cannons and add in another 10 man tactical squad.
I played a game yesterday (1500pts) and had 2 x 10 man tactical squads and 5 scouts and couldn't win because I didn't have enough scoring units.
If you play with it let me know how your drop dreads go. (I've thought about that tactic too.)
lord_caldera - October 12, 2008 04:03 AM (GMT)
Thanks, I'll give that a think. I don't have any models yet, it's just the final list I want to make so unfortunatley I won't be playing any games soon. I did see a dorp dread with multimelta and storm bolter take on a swathe of Necrons at my local club and survive the battle coming in second turn. He made back his points even with a weapon destroyed and a few shakens. I was a SW venerable dread...but I think the principle is the same.
Massaen - October 12, 2008 04:45 AM (GMT)
Yvraith - remember he has combat squads... so potentially 8 scoring units!
Yvraith - October 12, 2008 08:24 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (lord_caldera @ Oct 12 2008, 11:40 AM) |
Troops 2x 10-man Tactical Squad (flamer, power weapon, Rhino w/extra armor) 2x 10-man Tactical Squad (plasma gun, heavy bolter)
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Masaen you're correct.
Lord Caldera Sorry, I mis-read your list.
For some reason I thought you only had one of each Tac. Squad not 2.
Please ignore my previous comments about another troops selection. :rolleyes:
Although I can highly recommend using Sternguard veterans, they can pretty much out-shoot any other unit in the Codex.
lord_caldera - October 12, 2008 09:09 PM (GMT)
Yvraith that's alright. You can never have too many bolter-toting superhumans in power armor! :lol: I'll see if I can work a unit of Sternguard in. I love them but they just don't seem to fit the prehersy theme.
Yvraith - October 12, 2008 09:48 PM (GMT)
I use sternguard as my company captain's favorite squad, a la Loken's Locasta.
In my last game I used them to represent an Emperor's Children Squad. :rolleyes:
lord_caldera - October 14, 2008 03:36 PM (GMT)
I should try that out. If I drop the Termies I should be able to get a full-strength squad in...
Inquisitor Malaclypse - October 15, 2008 08:54 PM (GMT)
welcome, and here's a potentially unpopular idea:
play your Word Bearers using Black Templar rules.
you'll have to make modifications to the list of course, but the BT and WB are relgious zealots, but on different sides of the fence.
just use no Neophytes, and all your tact squads have bolters, not the chainsword/bolter combo.
If you wanted the army to have the beginnings of their fall to Chaos, use IG models to represent the Neophytes in the sense that they are converts to the WB cause.
this way, you can still get a Chaplain/Commander in your HQ, plus the compulsory Emperor's Champ. can be your Dark Apostle (or Chief Apostle, if not corrupted), since WB armies are always led by them.
IMHO, it is very much to the WB style to swear an army wide oath in reverence to the Emperor.
must my $0.02.
good luck whatever you decide.
lord_caldera - October 16, 2008 02:03 AM (GMT)
BT was actually the first book I considered using for the list, I'm using the sprues anyways. I am still considering it as an alternative because I agree with you that they are pretty much the WB of the Second Founding. I just have to work out a real quality list for them. I think a MoS, EC a nd 8-man Sword Brethren squad in a Land Raider, a couple Crusader squads in Rhinos to back them up, and the Termies Dreads and a pair of Vindicators on the other flank would be wonderful, with a couple more Crusader squads to hold objectives on my side. I think I just got distracted from the BT codex by the shiny new book. :rolleyes:
Inquisitor Malaclypse - October 16, 2008 01:56 PM (GMT)
sounds good to me.
i just imagined the WB to have lots of slow advancing, chanting relgious fanatics, so i wouldn't be in favor of termies.
i prefer to use at leat 3-5 tact squad w/at leat 10 men each, but that's just me.
also, using the BT codes, you get to use Helbrecht and the special character Chaplain (i can't remember his name), and you can count them as Kor Phaeron or some other named WB character.
can't wait to see the updated army list.
lord_caldera - October 16, 2008 03:48 PM (GMT)
BT list:
Emperor's Champion 100
Uphold the Honor of the Emperor
Master of Sanctity 111
bolt pistol
Reclusiarch 96
bolt pistol
2x Dreadnought 326
TLLC, ML, EA, SL, Venerable
2x Crusader Squad 602
10 Initiates, 10 Neophytes, flamer, PF, frag grenades, all BP&CCW
4x Crusader Squad 512
7 Initiates, plasma gun, ML, all bolters
Predator Destructor 118
HB sponsons, EA, SL
Predator Destructor 133
LC sponsons, EA, SL
Total: 1998
I read B&C's guide to using BT and I came up with this. Now I just need to decide which book to go with for the finished army.
Inquisitor Malaclypse - October 16, 2008 04:03 PM (GMT)
good list. i like all the troops.
and you hve a lot of anti-tank equipment.
the only think i don't like are the tanks, but my personal style of playing eschews tanks for other kinds of heavy weaponry, such as land speeders w/multi-meltas or assault squads w/thunder hammers.
but this is pretty good.
now get to painting.
:D
lord_caldera - October 16, 2008 04:21 PM (GMT)
I need to get to making money first! :P Thanks to everyone for your help. This'll be fun to build.
Lord_Mortirion - October 27, 2008 05:14 PM (GMT)
are you doing them with grey or red armour???
lord_caldera - October 27, 2008 09:54 PM (GMT)
Mostly the stone grey, with maybe a really light brown and silver drybrush after higlighting to get that "granite" feel. I will be doing dark red shoulder trim and left arm. Cream tabards and black weapons. I figured they would have to get their idea for their new scheme somewhere, so why not from my company?
BTW I think I'm going to go with the first list but with two 5-man ML Dev squads and one Thunderfire. It suits me more, plus I play Khorne now so I'm trying to get away from a CC-oriented army.