Hey guys I was wondering what you thought of the idea of a whole imperial fist company converted from the apocolypse battle company? I was wondering how well the contents fitted into the pre heresy idea and what i needed to do to convert it?

I was looking at the :

6 Tactical Squads
3 Devestator Squads
2 Terminator Squads
1 Dreadnought (Venerable)
Command Squad + Captian

maybe adding in the assault marines if i fancied

I looked at the tutorials and have already had a quick bash at the cahos bunny paint scheme on the free WD termie and like the helmet conversions as well.

Just wondering what your thoughts were. cheers

Benedictus

not bad. i do like.

how many points will this army be?

Maybe not a venerable dread, just a standard dread.
But otherwise it looks fine to me.

I think its gonna end up at about 3000 points so nice and apocolypse sized.

were there no ven dreds in pre heresy or is it just cause the dont really fit the fluff?

I think that it's a fluff issue. The whole crusade was only about 250 years long, give or take. So it's not really an opportunity to achieve a venerable status, the poor veteran interred has probably only just worked out how to walk :D

That said, I'm certain that some of the dreads are referred to in the novels as "venerable" but more so as "Ancient"

maybe.

the only reason i say this is because you have to keep in mind that the 1st marines fought w/the Emperor during the Wars of Reunification.

remember Iacton Cruze looked old for a Space Marine in the Heresy novels, and no one knew at the time how long a Marine could live, aside from being killed in battle.

and even though the first genetically engineered warriors may not be true Marines, who's to say they put a proto-Marine in a Dreadnought and assign him to a Legion?

remember in Descent of Angels something similar happened to the members of the Order who were too old to be Marines: they were augmented.

we also don't know how long Dreadnought technology had existed by the time the Heresy started.

was it something invented by the Mechanicum for the Astartes at the start of the Crusade, or is it something that predates the primarchs?

i think it's possible to have venerable Dreagnought in pre-Heresy army, but maybe some one w/more fluff knowledge than me would know better.

Thanks for that. I had never really thought about it that way?
Maybe just never logically worked it out. But it stilll seems like the 'venerable' status is more spoken than a ceremony and what not... (correct me if im wrong) so towards the end of the heresy wars the 'venerable' dreadnoughts may start to be popping up. To be honest i may just have it as an experienced dreadnought.

Regards

Ben