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Title: Geno Five-Two Chiliad
Description: A dabble with the Imperial Army...


Anodyr - January 16, 2009 04:04 PM (GMT)
Having discussed the G5-2C elsewhere and dug out the small handful of Vossies that have been collecting dust in my bits box for ages, I'm finally feeling inspired enough to paint up a few of these guys. Don't know how far I'll go in terms of numbers, maybe a platoon, maybe more... we'll see.

But for now I have a fully codex legal Company Command HQ, accompanied by an Uxor. A quick check of the IG Codex reveals this little bunch to be worth 150 points (Senior Officer, bionics, power weapon, master vox, plasma gunner, grenade launcher, standard bearer, sanctioned psyker with force weapon) for those interested in points tallys (this is actually the first time I've worked out points values for models in years!). Once I pick up a few more Vossies, I'll look at maybe swapping out one of the gunners for a medic. I'm also tempted to use the rhino thats sat in my cupboard to represent a command rhino transport for them just for fun and extra PH flavour...

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Regarding the models, I'm not really looking to do much converting with these guys - the models are nice as they are and close enough to the Legion artwork to not really need any modifying. Imperial aquilas will stay where present as I don't want to bog myself down with having to file down every other mini I want to paint. Same goes for the Vostroyan V badge - I'll simply consider these to be members of the 5th Company of the G5-2C Regiment rather than causing myself extra work.

The Uxor is a Warmachine Warcaster figure (came with the Khador battlegroup boxset - Sasha something-or-other?) and looks perfect alongside the Vossies. Aside from pinning her weapon in place (it was very fragile and snapped off at the bottom) theres no conversion work required or desired.

I've got enough other heavy conversion projects on the go at the moment (Necromunda stuff, a burgeoning stealer cult, a landspeeder conversion...) so the Chiliad troops will be mostly stock with the occasional mod for variety. Instead I'll be focussing on paint jobs instead - Iyanden Darksun Coats with purple lotus print freehand patterning and Khaki inner lining. Should be enough of a challenge to keep me on my toes I think. I started some Vossie snipers a while back (which since got sold - d'oh!) and was using them as a real push-my-painting skills exercise, and that will now become the aim of these guys instead.

Anyway, consider yourselves officially welcomed to my little blog of Geno's.

BigWill - January 16, 2009 05:22 PM (GMT)
awesome uxor model.
I use Vosties as my Crusade era guard too.
except mine are the Byzant Janizars

Keep em coming I want to see paint :D

Brother Tiriel - January 16, 2009 06:36 PM (GMT)
I fear you may have a problem sir...
Some Khadoran banshee has slipped into your IA ranks :D
And her name is Sorcha, btw.


Seriously though, you indeed may have a problem with this mini, since it's not the same un-scale as GW's minis.
I.e, it's more acurately human scaled than the imperial guardsmen minis, and you'll have visible differences between the two like not the same head-size, not the same bulk, etc etc.

Kriegersen - January 16, 2009 08:10 PM (GMT)
I think Sorcha fits in there well, thats a nice model of her too, I've only got the one where she is waving here big Ice hammer thing above her head :D Great addition mto my Cador force :lol:
It fits with them nicely ;)

Anodyr - January 16, 2009 10:36 PM (GMT)
Sorcha, thats the witch's name! :rolleyes:

Anyway the scale thing actually isn't such an issue for a few reasons:

1) While she is a little taller than the spec weapons dudes (and presumably by extension, most of the Vossie trooper models), when she stands between vox caster and Colonel Moustache (as she is on my shelf at this very moment), the height difference isn't as pronounced because those two figs are actually taller than the troopers. As long as the vox caster is the closest other trooper at any given time, the noticeable difference becomes negligible.

2) Shes a laydee. Thus the proportion difference is less noticeable - heroic women are more svelte and streamlined, slim and tall whilst also looking a little delicate. Thats exactly how she appears next to a male GW vossie.

3) They're all ranked up quite closely at the moment - once shes at 2" unit cohesion distance or whatever its called, you wouldnt notice the height at all. She would look much slimmer than the rest, but for that I refer you back to point 2. :)

4) Vossies wear big hats. If theres a guard regiment where overly tall females can pass by relatively unnoticed, its the Vossies.

In an ideal world I'd actually try and find 4 assistant trainee uxors to hang around her (Escher juves have the right look to be a starting point but the height would be an issue), and she'd be the leader of her own little unit, and would therefore never be close enough to any GW figs for the scale issue to become apparent.

As for painting, they will be undercoated tomorrow morning, so hopefully I'll get some stuff done over the weekend. I'm trying to resist the automatic urge to pick up the black spray, and try using the white GW spray I found when I did my clearout at the parents house, but frankly I'm scared. Its been so long since I painted over white rather than black...

Anodyr - January 16, 2009 11:44 PM (GMT)
Please forgive the doublepostage, but I may have found the right mini for my Uxors trainee/assistant types: Khador Manhunter

Couple of weapon swaps and perhaps a head repositioning and I reckon I can get a couple of suitably similar looking but individual figures. Shame there aren't a couple more scuplts but hey...

Split them between platoon command squads and call them all sanctioned psykers, and there you go! Uxor with trainees (did they have their own rank/title?).

Kriegersen - January 17, 2009 10:04 PM (GMT)
WOW, I just orderd one of those for some kislev conversions, its ace!
I compared Sorcha next to a cadian model today and there is very little difference in height ;) that one looks like it will fit with the boys perfectly :lol:

Vredesbyrd - January 18, 2009 07:25 AM (GMT)
Good use of Sorscha there Anodyr, you may want to consider the Khadoran Widowmakers as 'counts as' Ratlings if you intend fielding them at all.

It'll be interesting to see how this all turns out in the end.

KRUG_666 - January 18, 2009 09:59 AM (GMT)
Nice :)
Love the use of the Privateer press fig. Glad to see you found a use for the IG big hats, I never did...
Any hopes on some Lucifer Blacks too?

Anodyr - January 18, 2009 05:32 PM (GMT)
Cheers Vred, I hadnt thought of the Widowmakers as Ratlings angle... will check that out.

As for Lucifer Blacks, I'd need to re-read the book and find out how they're described I think...

Anodyr - January 24, 2009 11:02 AM (GMT)
Yay, got some nice new presents in the post today thanks to Magos and an ebay win.

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I now have my command HQ wth uxor, a two squad infantry platoon with command squad, the beginnings of a mortar platoon (command squad plus two mortar teams) plus a bunch of snipers and special weapons (lots of plasma!) that need a few common infantry models to turn them into spec weapons support squads. I also have the Last Chancer demo man to use as a demo charge.

Having not played the game for a while, if someone could help me out with some squad structuring advice, that would be much appreciated.

Specifically:

1) I've got a heavy bolter team in one squad and a lascannon team in t'other. What would be the most suitable special weapons to go with these squads?

2) My command HQ has officer, vox, standard (and uxor). Should I add two special weapons, a spec plus a medic, or something else to make up the numbers? If a spec weapon, which one is most suitable for a command HQ (long or short range?).

3) Mortar platoon will have three mortar squads, plus command of officer, vox, mortar team plus ?. Medic or spec weapon or trooper?

Obviously I still need another infantry platon before this little lot becomes game legal, but its definitely getting there. :)

As for the guys that marked the beginning of the log, I've been doing little bits over the last few nights, so a few wip pics aren't totally inappropriate I think.

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Vox blokey is furthest along at the moment with a couple more highlights to go on the face and then I can concentrate on his clothes/kit. Havent quite got the nerve up for the freehand cloth detail yet, but I will need to start getting this down before I start highlighting the great coats, so I'm going to have to bite the bullet sooner or later. I have picked out the design I'll be using though - it'll be something close to the image on the left hand banner shown below:

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All thoughts, comments, crit etc appreciated as always.

Anodyr - February 5, 2009 08:31 PM (GMT)
By way of an update, painting has continued (albeit slowly) and vox guy is no longer the most complete mini, the accolade having passed to plasma guy who has 90% of his base colours done.

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Sorscha's face is getting there (I hate doing eyes and the flash has done them no favours here. They look fine in real life, trust me), though there'll be a fair bit more work to go before the flesh is done.

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Unfortunately, good daylight is somewhat thin on the ground, so hopefully the flash won't have washed out too much of the paintjobs. Will take some daylight pics at the weekend once I've got some more painting done.

Maratheus - February 6, 2009 02:45 PM (GMT)
Nice progress there. I'll have a kick at some Imperial stuff as soon as I get most of my marines done. This is good inspiration. :)

Kriegersen - February 6, 2009 08:45 PM (GMT)
Looking good dude, I like the colour scheme BTW ;)
keep it up ;)

Anodyr - February 7, 2009 11:59 PM (GMT)
Thanks chaps, glad you like em so far.

On a painting/modelling note I'm currently trying to scrounge one of the new plastic ork heads with fur-rimmed spiked helm to see if it'll work as a variant Geno hat. If anyones got one going spare, or could take a photo of one next to a human headed model so I can get an idea of size, I'd really appreciate it. My other option is gobbo regiment, who I think have a similar style helmet if the ork one turns out to be too big. I considered attilans and kislevite Gryphon Legion too, but frankly thats a very expensive way to acquire new hats, especially if the plastic ones work.

Regarding these spiked helms, the book describes them as being present in a bare metal and an "orange" pattern. My initial thoughts were that orange wasn't going to work at all with yellow coats and purple patterns (or would look really garish at least) but the pic of the grenade lancher guy above has made me rethink this. I hadnt worked out what I wanted to do about shading the yellow part of the coats, but looking at the way the light has fallen on the mini in the pic, I can see that a touch of orange could work really well without being too orange. Therefore, orange hats may just work after all.

Anodyr - September 11, 2009 10:43 PM (GMT)
I think it's about time this thread got an update - albeit not a hugely ground-breaking one perhaps.

With the avent of the latest Great Crusade meet up, I was finally inspired to dig these guys out and start thinking about their future, and while I wont be heading to Aldershot this time round, I'm happy to say that the G5-2C will be geting a revival and will finally begin to get the attention they deserve! So, I've started cleaning up some of my Genos and finally cracked something thats always been something of a stumbling block for me - the basing!

In essence its battlefield debris - but the key was working out what to use and there was a very real danger of them just getting gravel bases for a long time. Anyway, a traw through the bitz box later and I have finally come up with a use for the rhino spiky bits sprue that I've had for ages...

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(Yes, thats a Mk VII helmet, and no I won't bother converting it... I'll just have to give some thought as to which Legion it belongs to... ;) )

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Nothing overly exciting there, just wanted to show that I've done something recently...:)

As for the painted contingent, all the command models that started this thread (except the standard bearer) have progressed since they were last photo'd, though none are finished yet. I've finally picked up some SoB transfers which I'm hoping will hel with the lotus print patterning I initially intended to freehand. As soon as they arrive I'll be able to test them out.

So, Colonel Moustache:

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Uxor (who with the addition of psyker squads to the new codex, will finally get to lead her gaggle of teenage psychic strumpets into battle...):

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Comms:

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Plasmaguy:

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Launcherguy:

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So, thoughts so far? Don't be shy... Something that I think is worth mentioning is that I've started building some orange shades into the coats on Comms and Launcher guy and its working pretty well in my opinion.

Also, if anyone can answer my squad composition questions from a couple of posts above, that would be much apprciated as I'm still faced with these decisions to make.



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