Hey all,

I eventually plan on having an Imperial Army Company, but I'm wondering, were there loyal regiments that fought during the Siege of Terra?

Also, how much influence on a battle plan would Imperial Army Generals/Field Marshals/High Ranking Officers have over battle plans?

Did the Imperial Army supply the artillery for the Space Marine legions, or did the Legions have their own artillery battalions/platoons/Whatever?

Thanks in advance

Will answer these questions as best I'm able!

As far as I know there were loyal regiments of the army defending earth. I think the vast majority of them had been pulled back to help defend the palace, but you can imagine that there would have been a fair number of them.

The main difference is that you have to remember during the great crusades the Primarchs and their legions were in overall control of the expeditions - one of the things changed after the Heresy was to take control from individuals so never again could 1 person potentially destroy the Imperium. So, although there would have been high ranking Imperial Army members (and I presume these may have been left in charge on certain occassions, garrison of captured worlds etc) overall control would have been in the hands of the Astartes with the highest rank.

The legions did indeed have their own artillery, but the Imperial Army would have had a great deal of this also. TBH the Imperial Army would have been very similar to how the Guard is in 40k, the marked difference being the far expanded mandate of the Legions to cover many things which in 40k they simply don't have the manpower to do.

Hope this helps!

Lessee...

Yup, there where a number of Loyal army regiments present at the Siege, although some turned to Chaos as the preliminary traitor landings began:

We know little about which regiments were involved. Certainly the Imperial Army was involved in retaking the Lions Gate Spaceport, along with the White Scars:

For Guard, read Imperial Army, obviously - this is old background after all.

High ranking army officers would have had a fair amount of influence on battle plans. Obviously if a Primarch was present they would be in charge, but even then (depending on the Primarch of course) they would have an influence in decisions - witness Horus Rising for example where the IA commander is present at strategy meetings and seems to have a fair amount of influence. I don't think it is as simple as command always reverting to the senior marine officer either. Certainly where a Primarch is present they would be in command, but otherwise, particularly if the marines are not there in force, command would often remain with the senior IA officer - if I remember right Teng Namatjira remains Lord Commander of the 670th Expedition fleet even when the Alpha Legion turn up, although this could be as a result of the ALpha Legion's operating methoods.

Certainly the Legions would have had their own artillery. We know Whirlwinds were in use, and Collected Visions provides a few examples of other artillery in Legion colours. Such artillery's would probably been supported by bombardments by spacecraft in low orbit as well. Some Legions (such as the Iron Warriors) would have favoured its use more than others, obviously, but I would have thought that all Legions would have had some artillery support available given the more wide-ranging role they were expected to play during this period.

Thanks guys!

Thanks Pacific!

I see. Thank you.

Okay, I get it. Thanks for the help, Pacific! :D

Thanks for digging that old quote up for me, Red! Hmm, ideas are already flowing in my head...

I see. Again, thanks for getting the quote, for me.

Oh yes, now I remember in Fulgrim that Army Officer (Whatever his name was) making the plans with Fulgrim for the Dropsite Massacre.

I understand. Thanks for the help, Red! :D

I'm wondering how wide-spread clone squads were during the Pre-Heresy. I mean was it just a fabrication of the campaign that went on, or is it actually something that was found in IA regiments?

If so, where were they bred? Mars?

I'm not sure how canon we can consider it yet, but Dan has mentioned "cloned armies" in Q&A sessions and elsewhere... ;)

My fiction contest entry will explore it further. But that definitely isn't canon!

Still, its good to see them introducing new ideas for pre-heresy, rather than just bringing back previously cancelled models and weapons (jetbikes, conversion beamers etc.)

Aye, dispelling the common (and highly irritating!) myth that RT = HH. :angry:

Don't think we really have much 'canon' info on Clone troops at this stage unfortunately.

However, on the subject of named Imperial Army regiments, Mechanicum mentions the Saturnine Hoplites and the Jovian Grenadiers as regiments that fought in Dorn's expedition to Mars, and presumably (if any survived) would also have fought in the Siege of Terra on the Loyalist side.