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Title: Fitna
Description: Geert Wilders's film about the Quran


Mats - March 28, 2008 05:36 AM (GMT)
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Here is that movie EVERYONE talks about. Now what do you think? Is he just a racist fella or is there really something to it?

Pera - March 28, 2008 06:28 AM (GMT)
I've seen this last night. He is full of hate and a racist, but everything in this movie seems true (and everything is placed in the most negative context)
Compering Muslims to Nazis is where he goes too far

Matys - March 28, 2008 08:51 AM (GMT)
http://z15.invisionfree.com/The_Other_Shor...?showtopic=1401

I don't want to watch this movie, everyone here is taking a field day with this. You can't avoid discussions so my colleague and I are loudly discussing last night's episode of Eastenders just to piss people off :lol2:

henZ - March 28, 2008 09:46 AM (GMT)
OMG, that woman in the WTC... so awful. But when she said "It's so hot, I'm burning up" the ONLY thing I could think of was... I'm burning up, burning up for you looove!

Ok, I'm gonna watch the rest of the movie now.

Glamorama - March 28, 2008 10:38 AM (GMT)
This guy is a borderline facist (100% opposed to Muslim immigration despite the fact that his wife is an immigrant herself - non- Muslim though)

HOWEVER - I actually agree that Islam is an evil creed. However I also think that Christianity; Judaism; Hinduism; Sikhism etc are evil creeds.

The people who follow all these cults are not themselves evil - just brainwashed and uneducated

All religion is evil and intolerant and people should not be afraid to say it,

henZ - March 28, 2008 12:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Glamorama @ Mar 28 2008, 10:38 AM)
HOWEVER - I actually agree that Islam is an evil creed. However I also think that Christianity; Judaism; Hinduism; Sikhism etc are evil creeds.

The people who follow all these cults are not themselves evil - just brainwashed and uneducated

All religion is evil and intolerant and people should not be afraid to say it,

I agree. I saw the whole movie and I was shocked really. I mean, I knew it was bad, but fuck.

It's pretty clear to everyone that Geert is a racist and probably an unintelligent one at that and this shines through in the movie - it's very one-sided and he doesn't give any ideas as to what could be done - but some of the things that are said is just appalling really. I find it hard to believe anyone would follow that religion of their own free will, so yes, I think it's safe to say that they've all been brainwashed from birth. The children with the fake blood on their faces and the little girl who says that Jews are pigs :manson: I mean... there are no words.

He's going to do a movie on Christianity as well. Though Christians are not as bad I'm looking forward to seeing it. Religion should seriously be banned. It has no place in our modern world.

Matys - March 28, 2008 02:03 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (henZ @ Mar 28 2008, 10:46 AM)
OMG, that woman in the WTC... so awful. But when she said "It's so hot, I'm burning up" the ONLY thing I could think of was... I'm burning up, burning up for you looove!

omg :lol2:

engin - March 28, 2008 03:31 PM (GMT)
I doubt anyone could take him seriously after watching that film

moniquearis - March 29, 2008 05:20 AM (GMT)
Freedom of speech and bigotry are two different things.

SrkiSrle - March 29, 2008 01:19 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (moniquearis @ Mar 29 2008, 06:20 AM)
Freedom of speech and bigotry are two different things.

Exactly!

And I wouldn't mind him expressing his opinions and views if he was an artist..

But he isn't. He is a member of the Dutch governement and therefor needs to know when to just SHUT UP and think before you say something..

Too bad for him that he sucks at moviemaking and politics. You can't do both so just pick one to suck in Wilders!

bulletproof_heart - March 31, 2008 08:43 AM (GMT)
Ooh er!

Glamorama - March 31, 2008 08:55 AM (GMT)
But he is absolutely correct to draw attention to the evil nature of the Muslim cult.

Islam is a viciously evil cult which has nothing of value to add to the world. In this sense is no different for the other cults such as Christianity; Judaism; Hinduism; Sikhism. These 'religions' are designed for stupid people who need 'guidance' because they are too uneducated to think for themselves.

People are so worried about offending Muslims in Holland. Yet for some reason if a Muslim 'preacher'starts promoting death to homosexuals people start bleating about freedom of expression.

In the Netherlands there is not a single Muslim organisation which does not view homosexuality as gravely immoral. As a result there is not a single Muslim group in the Netherlands who is entitled to complain about this film as this only illustrates the hypocrisy of these groups.

People need to stop being so sensitive about religion. The EXACT same rules of behaviour need to apply to them as to any other group. Therefore it is only right that a football club which is for whites only should be shut down. Likewise a religion for men only or straights only should face SEVERE financial penalties every time they promote hatred of other groups.

Likw

Vancho - April 21, 2008 07:01 AM (GMT)
100% agreed with Glamorama. Aggression is the only thing Qur'an dictates its followers.

Well I don't want to equate Qur'an with violence, but still...

Glamorama - April 21, 2008 02:05 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (moniquearis @ Mar 29 2008, 06:20 AM)
Freedom of speech and bigotry are two different things.

Pity the bigots of the Muslim and Christian cults don't accept that.

Both those groups are totally bigotted towards homosexuals.

therefore they are being pathetic and hypocritical when they start whining about the Mohammed pictures.




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