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Title: Fake double reverse


Alucard - July 10, 2006 08:29 PM (GMT)
is this a fake double reverse or an index-thumbaroun?

xz64 - July 10, 2006 08:32 PM (GMT)
It looks like a Thumbindexaround reverse.

RippDrive - July 10, 2006 08:42 PM (GMT)
I'm pretty sure fake double reverse is backaround -> reverse TA

Alucard - July 10, 2006 08:48 PM (GMT)
so this is a fake doubel reverse and the other one is a indexthumbaroun?

UnEmploymentDude - July 10, 2006 08:54 PM (GMT)
I would say so.

Alucard - July 10, 2006 08:55 PM (GMT)
okay thx

nike t - July 11, 2006 07:40 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (RippDrive @ Jul 10 2006, 04:42 PM)
I'm pretty sure fake double reverse is backaround -> reverse TA

that combo is used a lot and i've never heard of anyone calling it fake double reverse so i don't think it would be...

i think it would be ta reverse>reverse ia

any ideas on that?

Toast - July 11, 2006 07:48 PM (GMT)
nonno

look on turtlespin

theres a trick called bakround to half of fl rev TA

that is reverse fake double

zombo does it continuously in part 2 of the upsb+pds collab

sketching - July 11, 2006 07:51 PM (GMT)
If TA starts the Fake Double, then Indexaround Reverse should start the Fake Double Reverse.

Backaround as the start would mean that Fingerless TA would start the Fake Double.

I like Indexaround Reverse > Fingerless Thumbaround Reverse

lunasol - July 22, 2006 07:02 PM (GMT)
sorry to bring this back up to the top, but i agree with sketching up to the rev IA due to rev IA going 12-12...not 12-t1

personally i think it should be gunman > FL rev TA because isn't fake double TA > FL pass t1-12 (FL rev gunman)?

but then again everyone does gunman > FL rev TA and it's never called rev fake double...

yxan - July 22, 2006 07:16 PM (GMT)
I think it looks like a variation of neosonic.. but what do I know :blink:

tokuwee15 - July 23, 2006 02:52 AM (GMT)
fake double is a combo. not a trick. the only way to 'reverse' these combos is to start from the end and go to the beginning.

fake double - (catch-less) ta T1-T1 -> bak rev T1-T1(2)

so, fake double rev - bak T1(2)-T1 -> (fingerless) ta rev T1-T1

sketching - July 23, 2006 04:44 AM (GMT)
hmm...
upon re-thinking:

Fake Double = Thumbaround (without catch) > FL Indexaround > Pass Reverse 12-T1 (in preparation for a Thumbaround T1 if you were to do a Fake Triple)

So, Fake Double Reverse would be more like:
Pass T1-12 > NeoSonic 12 ( or 3/4 an Indexaround Reverse, since you do not catch the pen) > FL Thumbaround Reverse


Edit: bringing Backarounds into the Fake Double seems a bit excessive. :)

Toast - July 23, 2006 12:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sketching @ Jul 23 2006, 04:44 AM)
hmm...
upon re-thinking:

Fake Double = Thumbaround (without catch) > FL Indexaround > Pass Reverse 12-T1 (in preparation for a Thumbaround T1 if you were to do a Fake Triple)

So, Fake Double Reverse would be more like:
Pass T1-12 > NeoSonic 12 ( or 3/4 an Indexaround Reverse, since you do not catch the pen) > FL Thumbaround Reverse


Edit: bringing Backarounds into the Fake Double seems a bit excessive. :)

a pass AND a half indexaround??

sketching - July 23, 2006 05:36 PM (GMT)
The "transition" from the T1-12 is more of a Pass for me, the pen is held throughout the move.

The NeoSonic or 1/2 an Indexaround is more of a throw from 12-T1. There is a moment where the pen is not being held by any fingers as it travels around the Index finger, as opposed to Pass T1-12 where it is either being held between the Thumb and Index finger or the Index finger and Middle finger. :)




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