Do you perform like half a sonic 23-12 ...THEN spin it on the index finger?


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Hold the pen with the COP on the inside of your hand, rather than the outside.

Half-way through the Sonic, when the pen is in between fingers 1 and 3, use the Ring finger to push the pen around the Index.

Watch this video by Kam if you need help seeing how to push with the Ring finger.

In Kam's video I cant see the push with his ring very well..

Can someone post a video of a sonic bust slower, or even just from a different angle? It'll really help me out with this one. Thanks.

Sonic bust is on psconclave now (just the video)

http://www.psconclave.com/wiki/Combination:Sonic_Bust

i dont' use a push... i use the momentum from the pen to make it spin around the finger

Half of the push is from the hand and half of the push if from a charge 13. Don't try this trick until you learn indexaround.

So... should I learn index around between 13 then? I know all the arounds besides pinky, and almost all of them reversed (the gunman, i guess), but I'm not sure that even applies to this trick..

I'll keep trying I guess. And yeah, that video blew, haha, I could barely see anything. Too fast. Thanks though! :)

Sonic bust video here for ya

http://www.pentrix.com/pentix/videos/combos/index.html

scroll down a little, it's there.

Sonic bust is not just sonic > IA like twisted sonic bust, it's hybryd. After sonic pens goes around index finger without pushing by middle finger. Sonic bust is extremly hard trick for me.

Like most tricks it is possible to do the IA part of this mini-combo with either a finger push with your middle or a fingerless push or a combination of the two. It's a hard combo to get, I'm still not that good at it but I personally don't like it all that much so don't practice it.

Sonic Bust has 2 pushes, and I'm guessing that the second push is fingerless, since kam didn't define it clearly.

what do you mean hybrid?

Hybrid means kinda merging the tricks together. Sonic bust is where you do a sonic, and kinda do a fl indexaround just before you finish.

Very simple example of hybrid:
Devil sonic it's twisted sonic >shadow still hybrid. Look this in the video and u understand that devil sonic not just twisted sonic > shadow still. Hybrid means that u do trick and started other trick when u don't finished first trick.

so i always hear that sonic bust is either sonic 23 -> indexaround. or sonic 23 -> IA 13 (12 catch)

which is it?

Half Sonic 23-13 --> Fingerless Indexaround 13-12

seirously?! no way.. I had it wrong this whole time
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It is sonic > indexaround

It's always looked to me, from Kam's video on the old Pentix website, that he uses the Ring finger to push the pen around: making it more of a Half Sonic 23 > Indexaround 13.

yxTay told me it was a fingerless indexaround normal... :SORRY:

yay 1000th post :party:

i think the second one makes sense its a hybrid IA :dunno:

The Sonic Bust is more a hybrid than a combo, so it'd be good if you guys stop attempting to break it down, since there's really no correct way to do it.

The Sonic Bust if a hybrid combo of the Sonic Normal and IndexAround Normal. Unlike the normal IndexAround, the pen does not spin perpendicularly to the index finger in Sonic Bust. The IndexAround is done with the momentum from the Sonic. The push from the ring finger for the IndexAround is arguable since the Sonic also involve the push from the ring finger (some may say there is a second push for the IndexAround, while some may say there's only one push).

Edit:
After trying to learn the Sonic Bust today, I'm more inclined to say that there's a push in Sonic Bust for the IndexAround. In other words, it's not fingerless (a correction which xz64 should take note).

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When you do a sonic 23-12 there is a brief moment that you're holding the pen with 1 and 3 when you bend your middle finger forward. What you want to do is start a sonic but stop when the pen is being held between 1 and 3 (index finger and ring ringer). Bend your middle finger in a bit then using your ring finger push the pen like an index around.

o.o not even close to how i do it lol

just do sonic 23-12 > rev bak w/ cop on the inside of the hand
IA.. same thing

Same thing pretty much, just different naming.

Here is a video and a slowed down one. You can use VDownloader software to download videos from YouTube. Following, use Media Player Classic software to watch it frame to frame, so that you dont loose any detail.
So, now to the trick:
Sonic bust is a simple Sonic (23-12)>IndexAround. Just link and that is all.
If you dont understand what is done on the YouTube video, then you can use this video.

i already made him a tut and pmed it to him.

@Scott Shaputis: Advice: It is better not to PM. If you had hosted that file on YouTube or anywhere and post the link here, then people wont be reviving or bumping the topic each time someone doesnt understand. If you need help on hosting, send me a personal message then.

ARGHH cant get the spin on. I can catch it with 13, but I cant give it that good rotation.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean here. If you're trying to say you're having trouble with the push then just practice an IA pushing with the ring finger. After you've got that down just add the half-ish sonic in front of it.

Yeah that's what I meant sorry. when you do that, will the pen be between 1 and 2 or still 1 and 3?

You should stop your sonic when the pen is being held between 1 and 3, and then push the IA with 3.

thnx, ur explanation worked for me the most. i can do it, just not smooth, <_< but at least i know how to do it

Oh I got the sonic bust down! I tried putting my hand in the certain angle to get enough momentum into the pen to spin just right. Its kinda like the twisted sonic hand way