If you have anything you want to ask the naming committee, ask it here in this thread.

~Mats

What's the difference between TS Rev and Full Tap Rev?

How do you pronounce "Comssa"?

How do you pronounce "Leigun"?

How do you pronounce my name?

Which spelling is correct?
cardiod? cardoid, or cardioid

ts rev it actually goes around ur thumb for the last .5 spin.
rev tap X.X stays on top of ur thumb+index

i pronouce leigun lik lay-gun
comssa is self explanatory...
and its cardioid

I pronounce it Com(long o) sa. I've heard people pronounce it Com-s-s-a.

i pronouinced it like "comme ci comme ça"

It's questions for the naming committee guys, you ask, the committee answers. The committee is ALWAYS right. It gets rid of the arguing you get if everyone answers. Thanks.

1) First question -

rev TA, spins around the thumb.

http://www.psconclave.com/wiki/Image:Thumb...rse-by_xz64.avi

Fake reverse, stays on the back of the hand, doesn't go around the thumb.

http://www.freewebs.com/penmanipulation/tricks.htm -

I don't do prounouncing, someone else can answer that.

And it's cardioid.

I pronounce comssa
kom-as in computer, and "za" when you drink soda

and leigun I think Im wrong
lee-goon
mats said lee-gun though

my name is hard to pronounce :)
in thai it's สธน or stn so it's like ston with real short o

but I dont want to waste time teaching that to my freinds and teacher so I modified a little english version "sat-o-n"

but girls in my school keep saying "sat-on"
my teacher keeps saying "say-thern" or if they though im frence "say-thong"
ehh..hard name to pronounce in both language

Is sonic 1.5 the same as shadow 23-12 or would it be moonwalk shadow 23-12?

There will be a whole article on that in like a day :lol:

I will add that matters of pronunciation likely fall outside the jurisdiction of the naming committee. Pen spinning is an internet based community, so for many terms, there may be only one or two people who know for sure what the original pronunciation of a word may be. For example, Kam invented Leigun I think. So the only people who would really know are Kam and people that have talked to him about the trick in person. For comssa, you're probably best off asking a korean, maybe Joshy next time he comes around.

Who cares about pronunciation. Naming is more important. And, it's the NAMING committee, not the pronunciation committee.

Shouldn't this forum be classified under UCPSBv2? The Naming Committee is for the board, not the whole community. I'm not saying that the Naming Committee is suppose to benefit this community only, but it's effects is directed to this community only. I don't want people from other community to come saying "hey the Naming Committee is wrong 'cause back where I come from it's......".

Not if another person has a reasonable argument. The Naming Committee is not a group heading for dictatorship. People's argument may even provide us suggestions for future projects. (Though I'd suggest that you guys consider your personal opinions before posting them. In most cases, no one cares about them. ;))

im just following where upsb Standards were...

Is there any project concerning both naming and PS history, like a database to see WHO invented WHAT ?

that's a thing I would like to know, who invented this & that...

There is nothing going on with regard to pen spinning history. That would be for the pen spinning history committee, not the naming committee. There is not history committee at the moment though.

And now, another committee to be created?

I guess it is pretty difficult to track the tricks to the original creators, unless you are refering to very unique tricks, e.g. BackRiser--nhk_9.

yea mayb someone should have like a thread on that like a timeline so to say... not a sermon just a though.....lol :spin:

So, what is the difference beetwen fake double, ext ta and tornado :P

Meh. They are the same combo.

No, kid, they are not the same combo.

Extended TA has 1.5 rotations.

Fake double has 2.

Tornado is some foreign name. I don't use it.

The naming committee will release some stuff on this issue soon.

Extended TA and Tornado are the same thing, if that's what Tay was referring to.

Tornado and fake double are the same thing. Just don't use tornado because it's a Japanese name.

Fake double and ext ta have a slight difference of catch position (fake double catch is T1,T2,T3,orT4, ext ta catch is anything that doesn't include the Thumb.

they end in differn spin directions, i really think they should be differnt tricks. They look very very differnt from one another too...

Agreed@toasty

Different ending direction matters.

EDIT: Actrully now I dont know what to think, lets get a video of each and compare.

Let's just leave it until the article from the naming committee eh?

Then all will be explained and there will be no confusion.

Are you guys gonna be like the Naming Committee in UPSB?

I have no idea. I guess a new one will be formed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssbHkuVreeI

There for anyone who hasnt seen that video yet.

i made ones with slowmo awhile back
http://media.putfile.com/fake-double-49
jus to warn u, im terrible at the second version

as to using different names, if we actually do, we prolly shouldnt use tornado. cauz that name is jus... retarded. do it would be somehting along the lines of weiss vs korean backaround. that makes it easier for new ppl to recognize that they r the same trick except done in slightly different manners.

i like tornado :lol:

You gave me the impression that you are here to create trouble. Members of the Naming Committee have already exaplained that Tornado is a foriegn name, so we should try to avoid using iit so as to avoid confusion. That's the same for the Gunman and IndexAround Reverse issue. It's not a matter of preferences here. If you are to insist on using the term 'Tornado', you might as well not have asked the question here.

IMO, there is no difference between the Fake Double and the Extended ThumbAround. But if there's going to be a difference between them, I'd treat the Extended ThumbAround as a hybrid and the Fake Double as a combo. The Extended ThumbAround is a hybrid of ThumbAround/Spin and IndexAround/Spin, while the Fake Double is a combo of Extended ThumbAround > Pass Reverse 12-T1.

oh my bad tay. ur right that there is no different between fake double and ext ta. the difference i was talking about was between the two different ways of doing fake double.

omg... Leave the ext ta/fake double/tornado crap.

Well yxTay I'm not here to start trouble, i just thought that tornado was a nice name, not nessecarily insisting that we should use it. Taro a post ago said that tornado was a gay name, and i just went against that. Thats all...<__<

And i agree taht the difference between fake double and ext TA is not relevent, but the difference between the two ways of doing fake double is...

@Mats Im just posting a request, thats all.

(LOL, damn banana. It kinda screwed up the BBCodes.)
Well, I don't really see any two ways, if they even exist, of doing the Fake Double.

In the video you provided, they Fake Double appear different because of the tilt of hand. The tilt of hand is present in the first Fake Double, but absent in the second Fake Double. However, the tilt of hand isn't used to identify the trick, so there shouldn't be any difference between them.

As for the direction of spin after the catch in the 12 position, it's irrelevant. The direction of spin is restricted by the tilt of hand. So the direction of spin is different depending on the presence of the tilt of hand. Let's consider another combo, say Twisted Sonic Normal 23-12 > ThumbAround. If one were to do the combo with the palm perpendicular to the ground with no tilt of hand, one would observe the change in the direction of spin in the combo. However, if one were to do the Twisted Sonic palm-down before tilting the hand for the ThumbAround, one would observe that there is no change in the direction of spin in the combo. That's the same for the Fake Double.

Hopefully, that answers your queries.

yxtay if u actually try doing the different fake doubles there is a different feel and a different push too. the first u tilt the hand so it can roll over lik a rev bak. the second u acutally make a pass motion when u let the pen roll over

From what I understand, the 2 you are talking about are not the same. The first one is the hybrid, Fake Double, while the second one is a combo of ThumbAround > Pass Reverse T1-12. They shouldn't be confused with each other.

I think you missed the humour here..

*Weis

I see the humour.

I read Bojo's post as 'Are you guys gonna be like, the Naming Committee in new UPSB?'

I guess it was late and I was tired.

To answer his actual question. I guess we are, except we will actually release stuff :lol:

yxTay, the thumbaround>pass t1-12 is what fake double is. Look at turtlespin.

Its just that the pass is partly done with the momentum of the thumbaround.