i have absolutly no clue about this trick, just heard my friend saying hes trying to do it...

any video, description, tutorial, tips, hints will be very appreciated


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clarification: Devil's Spin is an old name for Devil's Around. Please always use Devil's Around for this hybrid.
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http://pentrix.com/pentix/videos/tricks/index.html

theres a video there. sry I dont have any description im a n00b and Im totally not ready for this trick lol.

edit: tokuwee gave you a description i see...

edit 2: oh! its the same as devil around in that case

http://turtlespin.rbhscsf.org/modules/arti...x.php?cat_id=10

Kam wrote an explanation for the devils around on pentrix
http://www.pentrix.com/upsb2/viewtopic.php...6a4fc219494bc18

can it be done with a shadow 12-23 or does it have to be a middle around?

half of a shadow 12-23.

ooooh... so theres a devil sonic too... which one is easier/ should i learn first, devil sonic or devil around??

You would probably learn them both together, they're basicly the same except one spins on the middle finger and is caught in 23 and the other spins on index an lands in 12. You should learn shadow 23 and 12 first. Devil's around is nearly exactly the same as shadown 23 except it's half a spin less. Devil's sonic is then just half of a twisted sonic and half a shadow 12.

If this video can help you...that's a short tutorial :)



http://rapidshare.de/files/13853970/devil_...-_FPSB.wmv.html

I have a question about the naming, if devil's sonic lands in 12 and devil's around lands in 23 what is it called if it lands in 34?

kills means

twisted sonic 23-12-> 2nd half of shadow 12-34.

it is not impossible.

i think its still called a devil's around...because devil's spin requires a second half of shadow STILL, not normal shadow...and i don't know what else it can be called...so yeah

Wouldn't it just be Devil's Around 23-34? It still goes around the Middle finger, just down to 34 instead of back to 23.

Like an Indexaround that starts in 12 and ends in 23 or 34. It still goes around the Index finger.

Well I thought since it doesn't just go around, it goes past around it might be something else, but I guess Devils Around 23-34 seems right.

UGH..... i can only do a very ugly shadow right now... i guess i will give up on devil around for now, and practice shadow first....


*hahahha.... my friend doesn't even know how to do shadow, that makes him never gonna do devilaround either....*

Not really, the second half of Devil Spin uses a different push than Shadow. If your friend has a good Twisted Sonic, Devil's Around/Sonic could still be learned.

so if ive understood this right, then a devils spin is a devils sonic that is caught in 23?

It would be better to think of them as two different tricks rather than one built from another. The second half of the tricks involves a spin that is different for the two.

- Devil's Sonic will just be a Twisted Sonic > Shadow Still 12.
- Devil's Around can feel more like a Twisted Sonic > Shadow 12-23 with the pen spinning more horizontally. It can also feel more like Twisted Sonic > Midddlearound, with the pen spinning more vertically. It depends on how you move the pen.

okay, then im just doing the shadow version, hehe.. thx for clarifying :)

I've been doing this palm down part of a charge > middle around and my index doesn't touch the pen.

It seems to look the same as a devil's around video I have but the index never touches the pen.

Is this a devil's around/spin and if It is not, whats the difference?

The pen is not supposed to touch the Index finger during the Devil's Around.
Devil's Around is Charge 23 > Middlearound

You're probably doing it correctly.

eh?

devil's around is -

twisted sonic (23-12) -> 2nd half of shadow (12-23)

That's just cause there's no good way to notate hybrids. Devil's sonic ends with the second half of shadow 12-12, so even though this is an around spin, for consistency (and if you want to do more than one rotation) it's written this way.

If you were to use your index finger in the trick, it would be either for incidental contact, support, or a second push, in which case it would no longer be a hybrid. In any case, the index finger does not play a significant role in the trick.

no. the twisted sonic, a hybrid of charge (23) -> pass reverse (23-12) also requires two pushes. however, it is considered a single trick. this also applies to the demon's sonic.

this is because kam stated the definition of a trick here -

a devil's around is an extension of the devil's sonic. that is why the index finger touches the pen during the trick.

Sorry about that. I've been doing Devil's Around as a combo of Twisted Sonic + Middlearound for awhile now. The pen does not need to touch the Index finger in that version. The Twisted Sonic + Shadow 12-23 would touch the Index finger too.

Doing it as a Middlearound makes the middle finger more pronounced, more like the original Devil Spin. :)

yea i need help on devils around can you give me tips and a vid plz

thx :lol:

Practice Shadow 12-23 then add that to a Twisted Sonic
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Practice Middlearound then add that to a Twisted Sonic

Devil's Around at the PenSpinning Wiki. There's a video for you to see over there.

Edit: Devil Spin thread here at UCPSB. Devil Spin was the orginal name for Devil Around.

Edit again: Another thread here at UCPSB about Devil Around.

okay do a palm down twisted sonic but stop right b4 u start the pass. u should have the middle finger over the pen and both the index and ring finger under the pen. now do a palm down shadow. right b4 u release the pen, u have the index finger under the pen adn the middle finger over the pen right? look familiar? how bout try sticking the ring finger under the pen too? now ur back in the position u were in with the twisted sonic. thats the point in the twisted sonic that u release the pen lik a shadow(either to 23 for devil's around or to 12 for devil's sonic). u jus have to practice using the momentum from the charge in tw sonic to do the shadow.

ugh i really need to buy that webcam

Sorry for pumping this topic, can you put a video in wich you "guide" how to do the spin? I have read the description from Pentrix web page, but I still don´t get it..Hah, hah..