I don't know if it technically counts as a manipulation, but is anyone else into speedcubing? (i.e. solving a rubik's cube as quickly as possible)

I've been doing it for about 1.5 years now.

I got into that for about a year when I was younger and got a time of 36 seconds. I dunno if thats very good but I dont speed cube anymore.

i cant even solve the rubik's cube to begin with..... if i could i would have tried it

maybe its like minesweeper....theres maybe a pattern....know a good site on it? at least how to solve it lol

You've not heard of the Rubik's Cube Solver Site??

i mean, it there tricks to it, like how minesweeper is....

Yeah, there are certain...patterns, I guess, that you can follow to the solution quicker.
Kaisen and Kam were showing us at the gathering last summer. Kaisen's pretty good at it.

I...am not. I've never solved one.

well nope, i try to make a pattern i guess but i could never solve it

you can search rubix cubix or w/e on google. i know there are sites that tell you how to solve it. my friend does it.

and in mineswpaper w/e its called i think there is a patter. i know one of them. for example if there is a box in the middle and it is surronded (left side down up diagonal etc) and it is surronded by the numbers "1" that means that the box in the middle has the bomb.

and when u said speed cubing i thought u meant slide an icecube as fast as u can.. =/

I got one rubik cube, never solve it. The rubik colours position different than mine, how i follow to solve it?

i can solve them (i think once u work really hard to solve it once or twice it gets alot easier) but i do like the opposite of speed cubing, i just mess w/ it maybe doing the sides one at a time in order, or aiming for sth other than perfect.... never read the help sites or books, cuz theres really no point in trying to follow instructions as fast as u can, we do that in skool often enough its annoying

If anyone is interested:

How to solve the Rubiks Cube

Patterns is kind of a vague term, but all solutions break the entire solutions into several substeps. The easy solutions have very little memorization.

By the way, how fast were they (Kam and Kaisen)?

I used to solve the cube often a year ago. I didn't take it for real, so I don't call myself a speed cuber. My times are not impressive, the life record is something around 50 seconds, and the normal time for me was about 1:10-1:20. I used the classic method, didn't ever have the motivation to learn the speedcubing alghoritms =P Also learned some nice-looking patterns, as well as making any pattern from scratch instead of the standard cube, but nothing extraordinary besides this.

my best single solve is 23.28 and best average of 10 is 30.90...that was over 5 months ago tho and i pretty much havent been cubing since.

i used the 2x2x2 method...never got the patience to learn OLL and PLL :P

Do you mean the Petrus method?

I know CFOP, but never had the patience to learn Petrus...

yeah petrus...not that many algorithms to memorize.

oh boy...corners first >_o haha i learned the most basic version and wasnt too taken with it :P

hey so any1 else other than grsbmd do the rubik's cube? i just got back into it, since i found a different technique. it still has the same amount of steps as the basic commutator method, but it sees more consistent and is easier to upgrade to 3look LL and then fridrich. im averaging at 1:00-1:10 right now but i can think alot mroe than my last method. mylast method had to be lik flawless. this one still has alot of cincks since ive been doing it for lik 3days.

oh and my new method gets ALOT luckier. lik alot of the time i skip some of the LL steps. lik here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8W7jTcAQTQ
thats freakin 10seconds less than my record.

hey grsbmd, u know of any good sites for 3look LL other than http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/3look.html ?
really im just looking for a better algorithm for flipping all the edges since i cant do a slice for my life <_<
oh and do u know of any good sites for learning F2L intuitively? i fail every time i try >_<

*edit
whoops. can someone move this to manips >_<

spinofdoom does it in 37.89

Haha.
I just can't stop laugh after I see that post.

Off the top of my head, I don't know of any good 3 look LL sites. I never learned a good 3 look LL myself, but I probably should have. And I don't know if there are any good algorithms to flip all the edges. If there is I've never seen it. Though if you look around you can probably find one that doesn't involve a slice.

The way I learned f2l is, I learned about 1/4 of the algorithms, and then when I got there, I finally realized what they had in common and was able to create my own using the same method. I have seen a site about intuitive f2l. I'll look for it when I have more time. Got to go to class now.

I was challenged at work to learn to solve a Rubik's in under 2 minutes, it took me a week of lunchtimes to achieve it - that's 5 hours of learning/practice.

I was happy. B)

Kudos to anyone that can actually come up with their own style!

P.S. I may well have quite lucky with the positioning on the last solve...

i learned the basic computation method in about 1 and a half hrs from a friend at summer camp. that prolly got me somewhere around 2mins, although im not sure. lik 2 days of practice i was getting 1:30 so...

oh and do u think its better for my time if i learn the 3look LL or F2L first? f2l i kinda got... but im not very efficient since i do it all intuitively

I think f2l is probably more important. Once you get the hang of it, it can really bring down your times.

But, I still definitely would recommend a 3 look LL. I know a bunch of people who learned a really good three look LL and are faster than I am using a two-look. I think what they really have is an excellent f2l and a pretty near optimal 3-look LL.

ugh... but f2l pisses me off sooo much. oh well i guess i should jus wing it.

anyways, i li 3 look obviously cauz its easier to learn. but also, cause the OELL algorithms r so short and fast, so i really dont see the need to learn 57 algorithms >_< plus its not li im gonna be getting sub 20 any time soon.
thats also wat turned me off from the petrus method, since the only purpose was to make f2l faster and have the edges oriented when u started LL.

right now i think im gonna go learn PLL algos first b/c honestly COLL algos really arent worth it atm. sune is pwnage =)

oh and do u know where to find a good lubricant? i heard wd-40 fuks up ur cube

lol this sounds so complicated...

I suk at it

and that ain't no joke...

its not really that complicated. f2l means first 2 layers of the cube(there r 3 in 3x3x3). LL means last layer. 3 look means there r three steps to the last layer, orienting the edges,(EOLL) orienting the corners(COLL), permuting everything(PLL)

ROFL hahahaha

Anyway back to the topic.... I think i gave up on speed cubing. I can solve it easily but not fast. Used to take over an hour before but than got faster till less than 3 mins for now. But comparing to the rest... I still suck :rolleyes:

ahhhh its such a bitch learning PLL algorithms. when there r only lik 3-4 to learn its not that bad. but friggin 21? >_< i try to do lik one per day and remember all the ones b4 it too. its so grueling...
well at least i found a site that i lik. bob burton's is awesome b/c he has all his fingertricks integrated in his algorithms.

oh and i finally lubicated my cube. my average is now 52. woot!
3 look better give me lik low forties >_<

Hey, I'm about to go pickup a Rubik's Cube and try this shit. Anyone want to point me in the right direction on where to start? Write up a beginners guide? Anything?

Any feedback appreciated.

use google, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=g...ube&btnG=Search

Fuck you. I was asking for personal opinions, I've already used Google a bunch.

Learning one a day is pretty fast, especially to remember all the other ones, but if you can do it, good for you. I know a few people who can.

Bob Burton is awesome by the way. I really need to start using more of his algorithms. I need to stop being so lazy. And 3 look LL can be really fast with a good f2l.

Retro-spectre, a beginner's guide might take a while to make, but I can try to point you in the right direction. This is the first method that I learned: http://jeays.net/rubiks.htm I think it's a good mix of fast and easy (I think I've gotten 35 or so seconds with it). The only problem with it is that it's not easily extensible to advanced solutions. I don't know this method, but I've heard that it's pretty easy and easily extends to more advanced methods: http://www.geocities.com/jasmine_ellen/Rub...beSolution.html

The last link you posted is a nice guide, I learned the whole thing by heart in 2 days but then I kinda got fed up of my rubik cube and forgot the algorithms but yeah I suggest it to everyone new in cubing.

the jasmine one is the wat im upgrading with right now. its prolly the best 4 look LL for upgrading and for use. but the best beginners one would prolly be oell, pell, coll, and poll

oell use FRUR'U'F'
pell use sune
coll use niklas
and poll theres a commutator R'D'RD

that eliminates one algorithm out of 4.

oh and i got f2l!!!!!! i jus sat there and played around. when i got stuck, i used burton's algos, and read the description. after awhile i kinda got the sense of it. now all i need is to practice and get it fast enough. oh and jus wondering grsbmd, do u hold the cross on teh bottom or left? cauz for some reason i find left alot easier to see things. idk maybe its from my 2days of trying lars.

and i only learned lik 6 PLL algos, and 2 of them were allan(and inverse), which i knew from b4. >_<

There are loads of solution guides, just do a quick google and you'll see loads. Whether are are actually any good is another matter!

Here's the one I used, some of the more advanced cubers here may well have much better guides: http://lar5.com/cube/

yea ummm lars really isnt that good for beginners. cauz when u make the 3x3x2, u have to use f2l algorithms and ur restained alot more.

HA. a couple days of practice, new tiles and grease for my cube, and my time got soooo much better. now i average 46 and my new record is 38.
that and i still havent learned PLL or OCLL for 3look, and my f2l is still really shaky.
my goal is to get a low-mid thirties average by the end of this school year(hopefully without having to learn 2look >_< freakin 57 algorithms.)

Are there any easy strategies out there???

If there are can you post a link to where you found it???