what would a reverse scissors spin look like? or how is this trick done?

I think it would be like a backaround starting position, except the pen is on top of index finger.

Push the pen back with only your index finger (stick finger back like multiple ts position) for half rotation and end up with scissor spin starting position.

Edit: http://flypicture.com/file/?id=rtzwlKrf

theres a video

Fake Reverse?

Fake Reverse, caught in between any two fingers.

just some clarification

rookee vs eriror

Is the trick after the sonic rise a reverse scissor spin?

xz64's vid doesn't work nemore

Warning: I'm going to ramble along for a while to make sure I get everything down.

Scissor Spin Normal should have the pen start at the base of a finger slot, the scissor-like movement of the fingers as they spread apart gives the trick it's name.

Anyway, if the usual Scissor Spin Normal is basically a hybrid of half of a Indexaround 12-T1 > Halftap Normal T1-12...

Scissor Spin Reverse should be:
Halftap Reverse T1-T1 > second half of a Fingerless Around Reverse T1-12

The pen just falls into a slot after the Halftap Reverse, normally, this slot would be the 12 slot.

@faulk: What was done in the video looks like a Fingerless Fulltap Reverse that then slides into the 12 slot and goes right into the first half of a Backaround, then a stall on the back of the hand.

It's another Fake Double / Tornado type of thing where the overall motion and amount of rotation is pretty similar, but with small differences in execution. Plus, in the video, there was no catch after the FL Fulltap Reverse, the catch was substituted with the beginning of a Backaround. :D

At this time, I would not call what was done in the video a Scissor Spin Reverse, but something similar to it.


Edit: in the video, it was a Fingerless Fulltap Reverse.

I see. When I looked at it, it looked something like scissor spin reverse> fl ta rev > backaround

As i understand, Scissor spin rev = Fake rev (ending in 12/23/34).

Since Scissor Spin Normal has a 1/2 rotation during the Fingeraround Normal portion in the beginning, the Scissor Spin Reverse should technically have a Fingeraround Reverse portion in the end.

If you do a Fulltap Reverse, plus a Fingeraround Reverse portion, you give the trick more than 1.0 rotation. Scissor Spin Normal only has 1.0 rotation in it.

So finally can someone create video, i don't really understand what sketching sayd. IF u film scissor spin normal and see video in reverse direction u will see the scissor spin reverse, i think it must looks like Fake rev 0.5 ending in T1 (if u filmed scissor spin normal 0.5)

In your previous post, you said that Scissor Spin Reverse would be a Fake Reverse (1.0) ending in a finger slot.

Scissor Spin Reverse would only be a Halftap Reverse (0.50) ending in a finger slot. Another 0.5 rotation comes from the Fingeraround Reverse portion as the pen moves down to a slot.

Scissor Spin does 1.0 rotation.

Minimum Scissor spin rotation is 0.5

Ah, I see. Just a simple fake reverse

I thought the rookee's move fell somewhere under the scissor spin category since it looks like he does a reversed scissorspin motion

How so? When David was doing the Scissor Spins after incomplete Neobackarounds, the pen was doing a full 1.0 rotation.

After Neobak he did 1.0 full rotation, but minimum rotation of scissor spin, not in combo, but when u do single trick, is 0.5

You have to perform the 0.5 indexaround motion to get the pen on top of the Index and Thumb, plus you have to have the 0.5 rotation on top of the Index and Thumb.

Where do you only get 0.5 rotations from?
- If you leave out the last 0.5, you are just doing a Passaround 12-T1 (not sure whether it's normal or reverse).
- If you leave out the first half, you are just doing a Halftap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lyhjta2Rlrk
I create video with Scissor spin harmonic, is i do it right?

Looks right to me.

Sketching, if i do harmonic right, so scissor spin reverse is fake reverse that end in 12,23,34. Or maybe better decision is say that scissor spin reverse not exist? I think in combo ss reverse looked like fake reverse, difference between this tricks is very small.

You are doing it correctly, and doing a full rotation in the process. You do a 1/2 rotation for the Halftap Reverse and another 1/2 rotation as the pen falls into a finger slot.

It may not look like it while performing the combo with a doule-sided mod, but if you have a single-sided mod with different colors on each end, you'll be able to see that the pen faces the same direction at the beginning and end of each trick.

I'll try to get a video shot myself soon to make more clear.

That agree that both Scissor Spin Normal and Reverse do not need names, since both are hybrids.