oftentimes someone will do an impressive combo, and naturally, you'll probably want to know the moves so you can do it too.

Since so many people ask about breakdowns from past videos, this can be the thread for breakdown requests.


please supply a
link to thevideo
and
identify the spinner (please tell the time he/she appears)

Anyone can ask or attempt to crack at the breakdown. I'm assuming that if many videos are broken down, people will be able to create new combos
-Ko

so i ask for a breakdown?
ok how about
lordbojo's combo for upsb+pds

..mm give me link please! I'm too lazy to look for it myself!

[edit]
http://www.handlordzstore.com/ps1wmv.wmv
00:17- 00:27

Thumbaround> FingerlesThumbaroundReverse> IndexAroundReverse> IndexAround> WiperReverse12> DoubleInfinity> first 1/2 of triple infinity (the falling part)> Inverse iSonic> Transfer> Sonic23-12> PassReverse12-23> TwistedSonic23-12

I believe that's right, but I"m not bojo.
-Ko

ok tahnsk
damnm lordbojo is good
ima learn all the tricks that he did so i can try doing his combo
what about phoniex combo

pheonix's combo from upsb+pds (i assume that's what quota wants)

00:21-00:28

2nd 1/2 FingerPass -> Shadow Still 12 -> Pass Rev 12-23 -> Double Charge -> Sonic Clip -> TA Harmonic -> Bak -> Pass 12-23 -> Bak (Middle) 23-23 -> Pass 23-34 -> 1/2 FingerPass Rev -> MiddleAround -> Pass Rev 12-23 -> IndexAround


all the breakdowns of upsb+pds videos

http://turtlespin.rbhscsf.org/modules/mydo...hp?cid=2&lid=49

MICHAEL : 0:52min to 1:08min

http://turtlespin.rbhscsf.org/modules/mydo...php?cid=1&lid=2

(can't write his name #1) : 0:35min to 0:45min
(can't write his name #2) : 0:45min to 0:55min

TY soooooooo much

:lol: :lol: :lol:

well this seems preel weird to post it here but the link tokuwee give me said lordbojo shadow reverse still
is that the same as a neobak?

sangkm 10th

yon oh md [00:35-00:45]

reverse pass 34-23 (?) -> reverse pass 23-12 -> reverse twisted sonic 12-23 -> ma -> reverse sonic 23-12 -> ta -> reverse ta -> backaround 12-12 -> neobak 12-12 -> reverse sonic 12-23 -> twisted sonic 23-12 -> reverse inverse sonic/sonic 1.5 23-34 hybrid 12-34 (all one trick lol)-> sonic 34-23 -> devil's around 23-23 -> inverse sonic/shadow still hybrid 23-12 -> reverse inverse twisted sonic 12-23 -> inverse neosonic 23-12 -> warped sonic 23-12 -> twisted sonic 12-23 -> neosonic 12-T1 -> reverse fl ta -> twisted sonic 23-12 -> double ta

eh neul geun nii [00:45-00:55]

sonic clip 34-23/twisted sonic 23-12 hybrid 34-12 -> reverse inverse demon's sonic 12-34 -> inverse demon's sonic 34-12 -> reverse pass 12-23 -> twisted sonic 23-12 -> reverse pass 12-T1 -> reverse neosonic T1-12 -> reverse twisted sonic 12-23 -> reverse warped sonic 23-12 -> reverse pass 12-23 -> half reverse sonic clip 23-34 -> sonic clip 34-23/inverse sonic 24-12 hybrid 34-12 -> reverse neosonic 12-23 -> devil's around 23-23 -> reverse pass 23-12 -> ia -> fake double

please correct me if i'm wrong

I have corrections in blue.

00:35 - 00:45

reverse pass 34-23 (?) -> reverse pass 23-12 -> reverse twisted sonic 12-23 -> ma -> reverse sonic 23-34 -> ta -> reverse ta -> korean backaround 12-12 -> neobak 12-12 -> reverse sonic 12-23 -> twisted sonic 23-12 -> reverse inverse sonic/sonic 1.5 23-34 hybrid 12-34 (all one trick lol)-> sonic 34-23 -> devil's around 23-23 -> charge 23 -> inverse sonic/shadow still hybrid 23-12 -> reverse sonic 12-23 -> inverse neosonic 23-12 -> pass 12-23 -> twisted sonic 12-23 -> neosonic 12-T1 -> reverse fl ta -> twisted sonic 23-12 -> double ta

00:45 - 00:55

demons sonic 34-12 -> reverse inverse demon's sonic 12-34 -> inverse demon's sonic 34-12 -> reverse pass 12-23 -> twisted sonic 23-12 -> reverse pass 12-T1 -> reverse neosonic T1-12 -> reverse twisted sonic 12-23 -> reverse pass 23-12 -> reverse pass 12-23 -> half reverse sonic clip 23-34 -> charge 24 -> inverse sonic 23-12 (pen doesn't touch 2 at the beginning) -> reverse neosonic 12-23 -> devil's around 23-23 -> reverse pass 23-12 -> ia -> fake double

I think that's right. What's an inverse demons sonic?

wow. so many mistakes. XD

inverse demon's sonic -

half of inverse sonic 34-23 -> pass 24-12

Ok, we'll just say you're right for the beginning of the second breakdown. I have no idea what he's doing. lol

I want to see your combo's breakdown from the 2nd ucpsb collab, ChucKo. Thanks

I wouldnt say so. They are quite simmilar, look at the vids on turtlespin.

http://www.zippyvideos.com/5843496684693026/korea_trick/

can i get this broken down?

i have no clue who it is but its pretty sweet

InverseDoubleChargeReverse> MiddleAround> Thumbaround> FingerlessThumbAroundReverse> Backaround23-23> ChargeReverse23> ShadowReverse23-34> TwistedSonic34-23> MiddleAroundReverse> TwistedSonic23-12> IndexAround> PassReverse12-23> Thumbaround

FingerlessThumbAroundReverse> IndexAroundReverse12-12> Pass12-23> Neosonic23> SonicReverse T3-23> TwistedSonic23-12> IndexAround> ShadowReverse12-34> Sonic34-23> PassReverse23-12> PassReverse12-23> Thumbaround

Man.... all that inverse double charge reverse is confusing...... can you put it in charge + pass form please? thanks again

..mm sorry
InverseDoubleChargeReverse==
WarpedSonicReverse> InverseTwistedSonicReverse==
ChargeReverse23+ PassReverse23-12> Charge12+PassReverse12-23

since the warped sonic and the Inversetwistedsonic are different directions, twist your wrist to get one fluid motion
-Ko

ahhh, now I get it. Thanks

Oh, and the backaround 23-23 is actually an FL Rev devils around

..mm who comes up with these names? You're not the only one who says that this trick is named differently....

it's been backaround23-23 since the old UPSB, and that's the name I'm going to use.

where did "fingerlessmiddlearoundreverse" , "backaround23-12," and "fingerlessreversedevil'saround" come from?!

I'm sticking to the original way of naming instead of these strange and foreign ways. :)
-Ko

FL rev devils around is the same as saying doing a devils around reverse with mostly wrist motion

first of all, I messed up on the breakdown. Instead of chargereverse12, it's just regular charge

You can use that name for the trick, but I'm still sticking with backaround23-23. It's simpler, easier to understand, and until now I thought it's always been named like that.

if this still doesn't convince you, Kam's on my side this time. in his neoback combo, (www.pentrix.com - go to "videos") he uses this trick. In his breakdown, Kam says that it's a backaround23-12... However, it was later agreed in UPSB that it's technically 23-23

but whatever, it's up to you
-Ko

i agree wit chucko
why not have simplier names everyone understands instead of have a real long complex one that sounds cool
names like that makes newcomers make a thread out of it and that thread would come to waste since 1 person would jus be like itsa backaround 23-23
waste of a thread imo

Why can't this be a backaround 23-23?:

http://www.zippyvideos.com/4656708304698776/bak23-23/

Heres a working vid: http://bttfpromo.net/files/f74bak23-23.avi

If Devil's Around=
Twisted Sonic + Middlearound
or
Twisted Sonic + Shadow 12-23
(they both mean, basically, the same thing)
...then Backaround 23-23 makes no sense as FL Rev Devil's Around. :huh:

--
@xz64: At one time. David Weis was saying that all Backarounds should go through the Index/Thumb slot to be true Backarounds, which is what your Backaround 23-23 does. But, the Neobak Combo that ChucKo points out has also been agreed to be an allowed way to do Backarounds, it still uses most of the needed hand movement of Backarounds.
So...you're both right. :) Both are Backarounds, just different ways to do them.

Edit:
For the record, my Bak 23-12 looks like ChucKo's, but when I try to do Cont. Baks 23, they look like xz64's.

Isn't ChucKo's bak 23-23 also called a middlebak?

middlebak
fingerless reverse middle around
it's all the same thing.. too many names. backaround23-23 will suffice in my opinion
-Ko

**requested by Nitebird**

Implode

Michael[00::52-1:08]

shadow still 12-12 -> indexaround -> pass 12-23 -> twisted sonic 23-12 -> pass reverse 12-23 -> twisted sonic 23-12 -> pass reverse 12-23 -> pass reverse 23-34 -> sonic 34-23 -> twisted sonic 23-12 -> pass reverse 12-T1 -> wiper reverse T2 -> pass T2- 23 -> charge 23 -> pass reverse 23-12 -> pass reverse 12-T1 -> transfer to T2 -> wiper reverse T2 -> pass T2-23 -> charge 23 -> pass reverse 23-12 -> pass reverse 12-T1 -> transfer to T2 -> (infinity) -> transfer to T2 -> wiper reverse T2 -> pass T2-23 -> charge 23 -> pass reverse 23-12 -> pass reverse 12-T1 -> wiper reverse T1 -> pass T1-34 -> demon's sonic 34-12 -> pass reverse 12-T1 -> neosonic reverse T1-12 -> pass 12-23 -> twisted sonic 23-12 -> pass reverse 12-23 -> sonic 23-12 -> sonic reverse 12-23 -> sonic reverse 23-34 -> sonic 34-23 -> twisted sonic 23-12 -> pass reverse 12-T1 -> wiper reverse T1 -> thumbaround harmonic (x3)

please correct any mistakes. thank you.

Implode - (http://turtlespin.rbhscsf.org/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?cid=2&lid=49)

Michael[00::52-1:08]

ShadowStill 12-12> IndexAround> Pass 12-23> TwistedSonic 23-12> PassReverse 12-23> TwistedSonic 23-12> PassReverse 12-23> PassReverse 23-34> Sonic 34-23> TwistedSonic 23-12> pass reverse 12-T1 > WiperReverse T2> pass T2- 23> TwistedSonic23-12> pass reverse 12-T1 > transfer to T2> wiper reverse T2> pass T2-23> TwistedSonic23-12> Infinity> TwistedSonic23-12> WiperReverseT1> Demon'sSonic34-12>> wiper reverse T1> pass T1-34 > demon's sonic 34-12> pass reverse 12-T1 > neosonic reverse T1-12> pass 12-23> twisted sonic 23-12> pass reverse 12-23> sonic 23-12> sonic reverse 12-23> sonic reverse 23-34> sonic 34-23> twisted sonic 23-12> pass reverse 12-T1 > wiper reverse T1> thumbaround harmonic (3x)

orange= I don't think you need to include this; it's implied that it's passed. In other words, omit.
yellow= substituted name (for example, charge+pass = twisted)
nice job
-Ko

Then Sonic 3x is doing a sonic thrice?
Its actually x3, implying multiplied by 3 (meaning done three times)
Infinity x3 means your doing an infinity multiplied by 3 = doing infinity three times
Edit: Infinity*3 = Infinity + infinity +i nfinity

sorry for so much clarification :rolleyes:

You are absolutely right
I had it backwards:

sonic x2 means do it twice
sonic 2x means skip two fingers
-Ko

So there isn't any twisted moonwalk things ?

dont wanna spam but i call it sonic jump since it jumps 2 fingers ^^

not exactly sure what you're talking about :|

I've got a breakdown request, but I can't find the view link.. only the download link

it's the http://rapidshare.de/files/15820367/collab...S_FPSB.wmv.html
FPSB and UKPS video

I want to know fingerpass's combo
-Ko

fingerpass's combo

(can't tell what he's doing) looks like devils around 34-34 > pass 34-23 > shadow still 23 > twisted sonic rev 23-34 > pass 34-23 > corkscrew > palmspin 0.5 > sonic 34-23 > inverse sonic to shadow still hybrid 23-23 > pass rev 23-34 > ra > demons sonic > pass rev 12-T1 > charge T1 > (not sure what to call this trick) maybe a passaround T1-12? > pass rev 12-23 > twisted sonic 23-12 > gunman > charge rev T1 > fl ta rev > neobak 12-23 > bak 1.5 23-23 > bak 23-12

correct any mistakes

the trick isn't called "passreverse".. that's for a different one. I think NeoSonicReverse12-T1 is good enough

thanks for the breakdown, I'll compare it with the video later

..mm and his chargeReverseT1 is something tha many koreans have been doing.. the thing that bothers me is that they don't use the "1" finger; it's just the thumb holding the pen while the wrist makes the motion.
what should we call this charge?

we've gotta get the inversesonichybrid trick a real name
-Ko

How about thumbflap charge rev?

well, the charge doesn't require hand motion. this one does. the best i can think up of is a fingerless charge.

Ok, I'm confused about neosonics. I thought a neosonic had 1 rotation and ended in the thumflap or in T1, but I guess it has a new defenition now?

when doing the default neosonic (23-T1), it looks like it does one rotation. however, notice that the side you catch the pen with the thumbflap is opposite to the side you began with, thus, half of a rotation.

the trick 'around/pass hybrid' is identical to what the neosonic does (just caught in different fingers) and therefore is called neosonic XX-YY. the japanese community call this a half-gunman XX-YY.

EDIT:

maybe this can also be a half figure 8 too?

I've got some requests: it's from a video called ferarri's second. the video has two spinners going at the same time all the way through; consequently, the videos of the spinners have shrunk to fit.

[edit] got the link
http://turtlespin.rbhscsf.org/modules/mydo...hp?cid=1&lid=35

spinner: bottom right
00:30 - 00:36

spinner: bottom right (gpc)
00:55- 1:07
-Ko