When i practice hybrid tricks like twisted sonic bust and devil sonic i understand some thing: naming system work wrong for variations of those tricks. Why twisted sonic rev to bak is twisted sonic bust rev? Really this mirrored twisted sonic bust. Twisted sonic bust rev is bak to twisted sonic rev. And devil sonic rev isn't twisted sonic rev to shadow rev. Devil sonic rev: shadow rev 12-12 to fl pass 12-23. I think naming comittee must work on this system.

definitely. Hybrid naming is probably the naming committee's highest priority, although we haven't been met with much success so far.

But what is the really problem? Why naming committee don't use system that i used, i think it's perfect

With all the hybrids that there are, demons and devils and in out sonics and such, it can get really confusing. There needs to be an easier way to name hybrids instead of giving a new hybrid a new name, thus adding to the confusion and tangled naming.

I really don't understand what confused u, it's not hard system.
Here some hybrids and variations:

Devil sonic: Twisted sonic 23-12 > shadow still 12
Devil sonic reverse: shadow still rev 12 > fl pass 12-23
Mirrored devil sonic: twisted sonic rev 12-23 > shadow still rev 23
Mirrored devil sonic reverse: shadow still 23 > fl pass rev 23-12

Devil around (or Mirrored devil shadow rev): Twisted sonic 23-12 > shadow 12-23
Devil around reverse (or Mirrored devil shadow): shadow rev 23-12 > fl pass 12-23
Mirrored devil around (or Devil shadow rev): twisted sonic rev 12-23 > shadow rev 23-12
Mirrored devil sonic reverse (or Devil shadow): shadow 12-23 > fl pass rev 23-12

Devil shadow (or Mirrored devil sonic reverse): shadow 12-23 > fl pass rev 12-23
Devil shadow rev (or Mirrored devil around): twisted sonic rev 12-23 > shadow rev 23-12
Mirrored devil shadow (or Devil around reverse): shadow rev 23-12 > fl pass 12-23
Mirrored devil shadow rev (or Devil around): Twisted sonic 23-12 > shadow 12-23

Demon sonic: sonic 34-23 > pass rev 23-12
Demon sonic rev: twisted sonic rev 12-23 > sonic 23-34
Mirrored demon sonic: sonic rev 12-23 > pass 23-34
Mirrored demon sonic rev: twisted sonic 34-23 > sonic 23-12

In out sonic: inverse sonic 34-23 > sonic 23-12
In out sonic rev: sonic rev 12-23 > inv sonic rev 23-34
Mirrored In out sonic: inv sonic rev 12-23 > sonic rev 23-34
Mirrored In out sonic rev: sonic 34-23 > inv sonic 23-12

How much time did that take you? We also have the inverses of all those tricks and it would be very confusing for new people, thats why the naming committee is trying to find a system that would make all that easier. And the devil shadows are not as you wrote, cause in Devil's shadow 12-12 the pen never touches the ring finger (3) but in Mirrored Devil's Sonic Reverse you use your index, middle and ring finger (1, 2, 3). Basicly what I'm saying is that Devil's Shadow and it's variations are done only with 2 fingers while the variations of Devil's Sonic if done properly should be done with 3 fingers.

I don't have any better description of devil shadow. About inverse, I think inverse variation not aviable for all hybrids. But if u want, i can wright to u some inverse variations, it's not hard if understand this.

The twisted sonic is charge 23-pass 2312.

So in order to make reverse, you do a charge 12 reverse> pass 1223 reverse.

So what would it be to do a pass 1223 reverse to charge 23 reverse?

Is it called mirrored? I was reading on some german pen board, (my german isnt that good lol) saw the term mirrored, thought it referred to this, and decided to ask :D


i guess the difference i'm asking is: for hybrids, do you keep the same order of tricks but reverse em; or can you mirror the tricks?

Twisted Sonic Normal is ~1/2 Charge > Pass Reverse > 1/4 Charge
Twsited Sonic Reverse is ~1/2 Charge Reverse > Pass Normal > 1/4 Charge Reverse

Edit: threads merged.