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Ivan the Terrible - March 14, 2006 03:58 PM (GMT)
Could someone write the breakdown of his combo from Hall of honor 1 and from Sangkm's 5th? And what pen does he use cause it has a really cool effect?

Thanks

tokuwee15 - March 15, 2006 03:37 AM (GMT)
hall of honor 1

ma -> reverse pass 23-12 -> ia -> reverse pass 12-23 -> twisted sonic 23-12 -> pass 12-23 -> pass 23-34 -> sonic 34-23 -> sonic 23-12 -> reverse pass 12-23 -> twisted sonic 23-12 -> ia -> ta -> reverse fingerless ta -> korean bak 12-12 -> reverse neosonic 12-23 -> neosonic 23-t1 -> ta -> fake reverse 0.5 -> reverse neosonic t1-12 -> ia -> double ta

sangkm 5th

halftap/shadow hybrid -> korean neobak 12-34 -> sonic 34-23 -> sonic 23-12 -> reverse pass 12-23 -> twisted sonic 23-12 -> ta -> reverse ta -> ta -> reverse ta -> twisted sonic 23-12 -> scissor spin 0.5 -> reverse ta (pushed like fake reverse) -> demon's sonic 34-12 -> extended ta -> reverse neosonic 12-23 -> pass 23-t2 -> reverse neosonic t2-23 -> sonic 23-12 -> neosonic 12-t1 -> reverse fingerless ta -> neobak 12-12 -> backaround 23-12 -> half charge 12 -> korean bak 12-12 -> is 1.5 -> ia

please correct me if i'm wrong.

and about his pen...

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He took some generic pens and put them together. Even he doesn't know what it is either.

Leviathan - March 15, 2006 04:55 AM (GMT)
For Hall of Honor 1, after the rev. fl ta, I got

korean bak > rev pass 12-23 > pass 23-T1 > ta > fake rev 0.5 > rev pass T1-12 > ia > double ta

You can change the sonic 34-23 > sonic 23-12 to a sonic rise.

For sangkms 5th, I got

He starts with a halftap shadow hybrid, I don't think it has a name. You can change the twisted sonic > scissor spin 0.5 to a corkscrew. The fake rev 0.5 isn't a fake rev because it goes around the thumb. It seems like a rev ta pushed by the middle finger like a fake rev.
Then I got demons sonic > extended ta > rev pass 12-23 > here it looks like a pass 23-T2 > pass T2-23, not a rev ma, because he uses his thumb to help the pen move. Then sonic 23-12 > gunman > rev fl ta > korean bak > pass 12-23 > korean bak 23-12 > half rev charge 12 > korean bak, but it's pushed like a shadow still rev. > indexspin 1.5 > ia


I thought neosonic started in 2 of the 4 fingers and ended in T1.

Ivan the Terrible - March 15, 2006 02:08 PM (GMT)
thanks

tokuwee15 - March 15, 2006 09:41 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Leviathan @ Mar 14 2006, 11:55 PM)
I thought neosonic started in 2 of the 4 fingers and ended in T1.

when i wrote neosonic xx-yy, its like a pass, but is generated from an around push.

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The fake rev 0.5 isn't a fake rev because it goes around the thumb. It seems like a rev ta pushed by the middle finger like a fake rev.


yeah i noticed that too...but i didn't know what to put there. :rolleyes:

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here it looks like a pass 23-T2 > pass T2-23, not a rev ma, because he uses his thumb to help the pen move.


you're probably right about that.

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korean bak, but it's pushed like a shadow still rev.


devil's shadow reverse 12-12?

Leviathan - March 15, 2006 10:06 PM (GMT)
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when i wrote neosonic xx-yy, its like a pass, but is generated from an around push.


Oh, I see. Ko called that a passaround in the trick book topic.

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devil's shadow reverse 12-12?


Heh heh, now we start talking about reverses again. Anyway, devil's shadow has 2 rotations, and this trick has 1.5 if you count the half rev charge. Hmm...

tokuwee15 - March 15, 2006 11:52 PM (GMT)
edited the breakdown above. thanks for corrections leviathan.

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Heh heh, now we start talking about reverses again. Anyway, devil's shadow has 2 rotations, and this trick has 1.5 if you count the half rev charge. Hmm...


ugh..let's keep it simple and call it a half reverse charge 12 -> korean bak...sorry i brought up the devil's shadow reverse...gets complicated lol.

Leviathan - March 16, 2006 04:22 AM (GMT)
lol, yes, that sounds good.




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