Hey...does anyone know where I can Learn XCM without having to buy a DVD or some kind of Video........

Something Similar to Pentrix except it's XCM??

I looked on google but didn't find anything..


Thanks

Sorry, there are some free tutorials in handlordz and its forum. Those are just some separate moves. If you want to learn more, please get some material to learn. It's not a free hobby.

This is partly why I didn't take up XCM all the way. You can't find many tuts or movies. Basically you just gotta buy the DVDs sold around.
I hear that the ones at www.dananddave.com are good.

Get Jerry's Encyclopedia of Playing Card Flourishes, and/or De'vo's Xtreme Beginnerz.
both are good material to learn from.
Check out handlordz.de if you are interested.
EoPCF is available in flourishman.com
Other materials:
Generation Extreme by Brian Tudor
The Dan and Dave System

hi, just interested if anyone has done a fingerpass with a playing card before and if using the thumb to help is necessary?

Sure, I also like doing the Fingerpass with my credit card and business cards. I don't use the Thumb.

I assume it would be a lot harder to get a speed close to fingerpassing a pen because a card has much less mass and therefore less momentum.

Yeah, the credit card usually works the best out of the two, but it is definitely not as comfortable or smooth as using a pen. My Fingerpass with a pen isn't all that fast, so using a card is definitely not fast. :P

I spinw ith cards and other objects a lot, and it gets pretty awkward ony our hands :P

Let's just say a TA with a credit card is hard ;)

Credit card!
Droooooooooooools.

I tried fping a playing card today. I sucked.

Yay, I have one too.

fingerpass really isnt nearly as tight as the real deck-only card tricks

I decided to learn how to do a floursih after learning another card trick.. .

Can someone help?

Flourishing refers to a style of card magic which focuses on manipulating the cards in aesthetically pleasing ways. A flourish would be any trick which falls under this category, not any trick in particular.

I can only do one handed cut and a few others I really suck at. It's hard to find free tutorials for card manipulation online. Mostly it's just videos and 'buy my DVD.'

Oh.. on wikipedia it had a pic of some guy with the cards flying from one hand to another and said he was doing a flourish.

Well whatever it's called I want to learn to do the trick when the cards fly from one hand to the other.. .

I believe the move you are referring to is the Card Spring. Many magic books cover it, but the Encyclopedia of Playing Card Flourishes (EOPCF) has the best technique, IMO.

Flourish is a term commonly used by magicians. It basically refers to fancy moves (usually done with cards?) that do not serve a direct purpose for the magic trick itself. Flourishes are usually used to enhance the presentation of a card trick/routine.

There is a completely separate brand of card manipulation which uses only "flourishes" and does not involve magic tricks. Xtreme Card Manipulation relies solely on these display of skills to create a routine that is equally as entertaining to watch. If you are looking for card tricks, I suggest you search in magic forums. But if you are looking to learn card manipulation, then search for XCM.

Yes, I know how to do the Card Spring, but I don't feel it's right if I took the information I learned from a book, then posted here without the author's permission. I know the EOPCF is expensive, but if you like this type of moves, the book is worth every penny.

Do you know anywhere that you can get like a free demo of a trick since I don't want to spend a good $30 ~ $50 on something I don't know I really like yet. . .

http://www.handlordz.com/ has a few free tutorials. Not exactly on the Card Spring, but they are pretty cool moves.

The Learning Center at the Handlordz forums also have some nice tutorials.

http://p210.ezboard.com/fsuperhandzfrm104

If you do join the forums and post there, do yourself a favor and do not use the term "flourish" :) Probably a good idea to read their rules as well, since magic discussion is does not belong there (last I checked).

If you really want to learn the Card Spring, one suggestion I have for you is to start building up the strength on your fingers. You'll definitely need it. Just don't overdo it.

Awesome!

Thanks a lot :P Looks like fun

think thats a cool version of manipultion.I think thats a part from XCM put i think you can count it as 1 mnipulation.
Me doing card spin
i think there are some variations like throw it while it sins and it spins at the back palm or something but i think taht is very hard

Very nice; do you find if it helps PS in any way or any PS tricks makes it easier to do?

How do you do that ??
I've tried it but i just won't work :help:

You must place your middlefinger in the center of the card, then you push the card with your indexfinger and your ringfinger.

Dont push to hard because the card will fly away...... :D

I do some XCM i can buy Bicycle decks and Tally Ho Viper decks near my house^^

wtf aldmer you are german too i want them^^

It's a very easy trick, I got it consistant within an hour..

Doesn't really look to be worth learning.

Do you have links to videos of people doing this to a high standard?

I wanna see card spinning at it's limit.

now throw the card and make it stick in cardboard!

Didn't you make a video/picture of that?

yeah, thats why I want to show my supremacy by asking other ppl to try it :devildance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEG0EZFsWII

Ucpsb is great, but is there forums that are lyk this one but for card manipulations instead?

Handlordz

theres also decknique :)

dananddave.com
But their discussion mostly surrounds their products.
Decknique.net is better

Hm ._. Wrong link lol >.> Whats this i dont need to make new deck for my house

If you want to learn xcm I'd recommend going through tutorials at youtube and if you like it, buy Xtreme beginnerz and the encyclopedia of playing card flourishes smile.gif

www.handlordz.de
www.flourishman.com

Lol i'm such a walking talking typing commercial, but seriously these products are the best

I just copied and pasted this, I wonder if the person who originally wrote it will recognize it.

I do recognize it, but he asked for forums not products/ tutorials ..

I thought you would.

That's true, but if he wants to learn XCM it's good advice. Thanks Shoeman

yeah, i've started XCM last week, and idk, it's pretty cool, i think...i can do a decent fan, a simese fan(spelling?), some cuts and stuff...the big thing that i don't really like is that it's not exactly as organized as penspinning, as there's no like catagories, fundamentals, naming committee and stuff, and lots of cuts and stuff are open towards creativity, thus people just make their own tricks and give random names and stuff, so it's hard trying to keep up with all of them...otherwise, it's great, i especially like this guy name the cuso or something, i've learned like all his cuts cuz they look awesome :lol: