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Title: The Pen Or The Man Behind It
Description: Which makes it look cooler?


spin~TAP - March 10, 2007 08:45 PM (GMT)
Well, I see a lot of collabs and what really turns off a good combo for me is to see a pitifully ugly pen. Than again, at school, I see a bunch of poser penspinners with sexy pens that can't do squat and that looks just as bad. So I dunno, does the pen make the spinner, or does the spinner make the pen??

Nighteye90 - March 10, 2007 08:53 PM (GMT)
IMO

It's all about the spinner. though the sexiness of a pen is a plus, it is not as awesome as the combo itself.

In other words, i'd rather see someone like Eriror or Bonkura doing a kickass combo with chopsticks than seeing me do my completely crap combos on my MX.

Ivan the Terrible - March 10, 2007 09:07 PM (GMT)
A certain balance of both, but I think the combo is more important.

This seems enough seriuos for GD.

Moved

Zombo - March 10, 2007 09:23 PM (GMT)
The pen only matters if it has some really cool feature (like fire/light mod). Otherwise, it's all about the combo. And the uglier the pen, the more impressive the combo is, because usually uglier pens are harder to spin.

It's like comparing a LADA with a Koenigsegg. More beautiful -> more performance.

NF Alex - March 10, 2007 09:31 PM (GMT)
Combo > Pen

ed sect mobile - March 10, 2007 09:42 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (NF Alex @ Mar 10 2007, 09:31 PM)
Combo > Pen

qtf

RippDrive - March 10, 2007 10:39 PM (GMT)
Skillful spinning makes a good collab, sexy mods just put it over the top. Personally I would rather watch a pro spinner spinning a sexy mod than one spinning an ugly mod.

Simån - March 10, 2007 10:46 PM (GMT)
Hmm... I would rather see a superb combo done with a little ugly stick found in the garden than with a hi-tech super balanced mod with flashing lights and glammer decoration...

The pen is only a tool... You dont hear anyone say "Woaw, look at his sexy shoes" when they see a nice soccertrick... It would actually have been cooler if he could do it barefooted...

HuroniX - March 10, 2007 10:50 PM (GMT)
The man is what makes the pen. If a man can't spin, what can he do?

Sathon - March 10, 2007 11:14 PM (GMT)
It's not the Man...It's not the Pen...It's the Heart.
Heart of the man and Heart of the Pen. The Man and the Pen become one. they share the same Heart...The Combo is perfect.

Edit, oh yeah speaking of a tool Simån, If I'm Shane I would say
"A pen is a tool, Bob; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A pen is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. "

spin~TAP - March 10, 2007 11:17 PM (GMT)
One thing I realized, referring to Simån's post, when you see someone with super expensive flashy cleats, you expect them to be of a higher skill level than one with ratty old ones. So perhaps when you first see the flashy cool pen mod you may think the spinner is better than he/ she really is.

Simån - March 10, 2007 11:29 PM (GMT)
Some may think that... definitely it is not me... You see so many newcomers with fancy pens nowadays...
But when I see someone with a plain old pencil, i instantly think "Weis" or something like that...

K4S - March 11, 2007 12:16 AM (GMT)
Flashy combo > flashy pen


...BUT, there is nothing worse than someone who is very skilled makes a video with a pen so plain i cant tell whats going on. Flashy pens help newbies (aka me) understand what exactly is going on a lot easier :)

TayYH89 - March 11, 2007 10:16 AM (GMT)
It used to be that only combos make a difference. But now, with so many different mods, it's no longer the case.

ultimatsz - March 11, 2007 01:15 PM (GMT)
FPS FTW!!!!

i think clarity + fps is important. thus smoothness and the sexiness of the pen will take effect, if not anything will still look as stupid.

DaThroat - March 11, 2007 01:54 PM (GMT)
ha at school there are a few people with disgusting looking pens which spin quite well.. jus nid to get pass the awful look and they are actually quite nice to spin with.. therefore combo>pen

den again most of the time i dunno wat the super fast spinners are doing.. :lol:

fitzgeraldhimself - March 11, 2007 07:05 PM (GMT)
I'm the only one that voted for "No matter what, a cooler pen is best" because I imagined like 50cent with a gold pen but he couldn't do shit but I would still like give him a higher score than the 000 if 50cent was trying to get into the Elite Six... you know?

Health - March 11, 2007 07:30 PM (GMT)
Im pretty sure id never vote 50 Cent into the elite six ;)

...Or anyone who span a gold pen, even diamond encrusted...

However, if i was spinning a lightsaber pen, im sure youd agree :P

firebird - March 11, 2007 08:48 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
The Pen Or The Man Behind It, Which makes it look cooler?


Don't think girls can spin?

spin~TAP - March 11, 2007 09:16 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (firebird @ Mar 11 2007, 08:48 PM)
QUOTE
The Pen Or The Man Behind It, Which makes it look cooler?


Don't think girls can spin?

><


Whoops.... W/e, it was sort of a phrase but it doesnt matter. Girls can spin, of course. That was sort of just for the ease of the topic title.




SeYoon - March 11, 2007 09:37 PM (GMT)
For me its 80% skill and 20% pen. In the end, whats the point of having a really cool pen if you dont know how to spin?

Health - March 11, 2007 09:38 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (SeYoon @ Mar 11 2007, 09:37 PM)
In the end, whats the point of having a really cool pen if you dont know how to spin?

Uhhhh.... to write with?

Google it, im sure people have been doing it for centuries ;)

I drive, doesnt mean i have to drive a really horrible lame fugly car, when i can drive this streamline metallic double capped retractable....wait...

UnEmploymentDude - March 11, 2007 09:45 PM (GMT)
Well it depends on your audience.
For just random people, the pen and the spinner. Mainly because a random person cant tell the difference between a "sonic 34 -> devils sonic -> ta t1" and a fingerpass.

For serious spinners, the combo is always the best. smoothness and spinning ability.

SeYoon - March 11, 2007 09:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Health @ Mar 11 2007, 04:38 PM)
QUOTE (SeYoon @ Mar 11 2007, 09:37 PM)
In the end, whats the point of having a really cool pen if you dont know how to spin?

Uhhhh.... to write with?

Google it, im sure people have been doing it for centuries ;)

I drive, doesnt mean i have to drive a really horrible lame fugly car, when i can drive this streamline metallic double capped retractable....wait...

Well i was relating to purely pen spinning.

lefty101 - March 11, 2007 10:34 PM (GMT)
its all abput the combo

Crzyazn - March 12, 2007 02:49 AM (GMT)
Im a noob...idly learning my tricks when I have time.

I found that I could easily impress my peers with sonic rise/fall and devils sonic when I had my oh-so-sweet RSVP VX

The spin effect makes everything look much more fluent and amazing

Merkuury - March 12, 2007 01:29 PM (GMT)
It needs certain balance to look best. Although the combo is a bit more important it still takes some effect of kickass combo if the pen is ugly..

Beng - March 12, 2007 04:15 PM (GMT)
Tbh i dont want to see some guys spinning with a 25 cm pen which is ugly as hell, with 129387128903 grips and 129803791283 caps + tips everywhere


Eriror - March 12, 2007 04:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Beng @ Mar 12 2007, 05:15 PM)
Tbh i dont want to see some guys spinning with a 25 cm pen which is ugly as hell, with 129387128903 grips and 129803791283 caps + tips everywhere

Thanks. :)

Skills are more important, IMO. I see Pentaenge spin with a few not so nice looking mods, but damn, I'm blazed away.

ShoeMan - March 12, 2007 05:04 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (fitzgeraldhimself @ Mar 11 2007, 07:05 PM)
I'm the only one that voted for "No matter what, a cooler pen is best" because I imagined like 50cent with a gold pen but he couldn't do shit but I would still like give him a higher score than the 000 if 50cent was trying to get into the Elite Six... you know?

but will you vote him in because of his gold pen or because he's 50cent?

fitzgeraldhimself - March 12, 2007 05:26 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ShoeMan @ Mar 12 2007, 12:04 PM)
QUOTE (fitzgeraldhimself @ Mar 11 2007, 07:05 PM)
I'm the only one that voted for "No matter what, a cooler pen is best" because I imagined like 50cent with a gold pen but he couldn't do shit but I would still like give him a higher score than the 000 if 50cent was trying to get into the Elite Six... you know?

but will you vote him in because of his gold pen or because he's 50cent?

gold pen

Beng - March 12, 2007 07:42 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Eriror @ Mar 12 2007, 04:17 PM)
QUOTE (Beng @ Mar 12 2007, 05:15 PM)
Tbh i dont want to see some guys spinning with a 25 cm pen which is ugly as hell, with 129387128903 grips and 129803791283 caps + tips everywhere

Thanks. :)

Skills are more important, IMO. I see Pentaenge spin with a few not so nice looking mods, but damn, I'm blazed away.

eh..eriror i wanted to say that...if the pen is just too fuckin weird i dont bother wathcin it





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