Okay, im writing this especially for Zombo, which i always forgot to post.


first i want to say this first:



Pros:
Zombo is
-Great guy
-An admin (almost)
-He can communicate well
-He can make friends with everyone
-He's funny
-He says things that are true
-he got life

-Well respected
-Moderates well


Cons:
Zombo is
-too stressed out


and one more Cons that i am really thinking that it wouldnt be a good thing:

Zombo tries to solve problems by punishment.



Okay, Zombo, this is absolutely no offense to u. this is just my opinion, some might think differently. it's okay. i respect all opinions as long as it's serious. (zombo changed me)


Like a problem with me and Eriror (No offense to Eriror as well. dont mistaken me) he punishes people by giving me suspension for a week.

Of course everyone makes mistakes. and of course there are obvious reasons to ban/suspend/give warning.



I always was thinking about this. Zombo solves all problems with punishment (and dont play around with my words. im talking about problems between people, not problem in fourm stuff (log in...etc))

Zombo even solves problems when no punishment is needed, only just talking it out.



yes, now to my example.

I guess some of u know about me and Eriror's problem, when i said 5% of children in Japan kills their parents for stupid reasons, and Eriror said "u belong there" so i got mad and flamed him. i knew it was a joke, but still offended me anyway, so i flamed him.

It was just a lack of communication because Zombo suspended me before telling him sorry for the flame and i was a stupid shit.


If Zombo let me and Eriror talk things out over PM, it might have been better so that i wouldn't have to get a week suspension, Eriror doesn't have to be further flamed.





Zombo, in problems like "accidently offended", please let them talk it out with misunderstanding. i think as long as no futher offending happen, it should be fine. just give people chances.



And dont mistaken. this is a criticizm, not a flame.

No offense to Zombo, and no offense to Eriror (Sorry, i had to use u as an example) what so ever, but just saying this to Zombo.

if you're saying this to me, why are you posting this in public? just give me a PM.

just want to tell everyone as well. this is ESPECIALLY for Zombo. not just for zombo.

I give too much chances already, many people here think the moderating staff does not enough.

I've already tried to stay passive in a previous incident and let people solve their differences alone and it didn't work at all...

So this time around I've changed my strategy.

I guess there's never going to be a time where everybody is happy.

So ur going the same way like a law? punish if it looks bad, no matter what really happen.


and its also not fair for people who never got chances.

Believe me, Zombo solves ALL problems with punishment. Once my login didn't work. He banned it and it was so afraid i never had problems again.

Just kidding.


I think Zombo is doing a great job, hes not uber strict but he'll ban if its needed.

If you get banned, well then you know you did something wrong. Think before posting. If you're unbanned you know NOT what to do.

no look, you're like the only person here who complains that the moderating is TOO STRICT (in general, not just spammer's bin). maybe the problem is you, not me?

I've already told you like 284729384 times I didn't suspend you because of what you did with Eriror.

I give plenty of chances ok, I'm not going to ban people for minor offenses.

I think you're the one stressed out, scared to do bad things.
Just be a good attitude poster and you'll be fine.

If you attract trouble it's not the moderating that should be less strict, it's you that should get less into trouble.

I do understand that i should have get suspended anyway for other reasons, but i still cant agree with u on that one.


Would u wait like 4 days until giving a warning? ur often on board. besides, i didnt anything wrong like 4~5 days mirically before Eriror + Me incident.



I still think that the Eriror + Me incident triggered my suspension.
Because i still remember u saying "Dont get into fight with Eriror". because this absolutely proves that u defend him. besides, u always give reason on warning, suspension, ban.
Even not, still, because u included this "Dont get into fight with Eriror", u mentioned it, which means it does do something with my suspension.





therefore, i still cant agree with u on that one. it was just that i didnt want to talk about it then because u try anyway to keep me from saying further such as "Dont send PM anymore like this." i absolutely felt a threat from this, so i stopped talking about it.



so i dont agree with u on that

ok you know what? forget it.

take it however you will, I'm tired of arguing over this.

The situation at that time was that you were a known problem case, and it was better to neutralize the situation before anything happened.

And yes the 4-5 days before tat (more like the 2 weeks before that) you were spamming really badly every day and being a jackass to everybody.

So in another words, u destroy threat?




so what happen if nothing else happen? or maybe i could have apologized to Eriror in pubic rather than Eriror just apologizing to me and not letting me apologize to him. u suspended me before being able to post. that's not fair. can't u just PM me "Tell him sorry, u know it was a joke" or something like that?

Dont u know human feelings? Heart can easily be damaged even if not meant to. You offend me alot too. and i might have offended u as well, but who has more power? you.

therefore, i never really argue so much about it. because i was afraid u were type of person who ban, suspend, or give warning level for personal reasons. and besides, by getting into harder criticizm with u might give birth to another offending-without-knowing. I might take things too straight, when that's my personality. but wouldn't that go 4 u as well?
Its the reason why when i get warning, suspending from u, i just try to tell myself that Zombo is just stressed out, and he doesn't want to settle things the slow way.
and i think ur stressed. U easily get into bad mood. i found that as well. it's the reasons why i think ur too Stressed.

have u ever thought about this?


no offense, but have u?

Next thing you know, he'll be claiming compensation for medical fees.

you contradict yourself.

your fight with Eriror was not your "first chance" like you say, the chance that I never gave you.

It was already your "last chance".

With all the warnings you got, I think you would have figured it out by now.

The weeks of spamming you did, I didn't ban you for it because I was already giving you too many chances.

If I didn't suspend you, then maybe you would settled your problem with Eriror. But then, you would have continued your bad attitude and sooner or later you would have to be suspended again.

Right now, I see you spamming less, so I guess the suspension had an effect, huh?

It wasn't your first chance, it was already your last chance.

IC, its good to know that Zombo reads all words. thanx :)



Suspension didn't do anything much than just teaching myself that "ignore posts that offend me, and keep spamming less."

i didnt think anything about atitude because i found my attitude somewhat similar to u

Think of it this way: be glad he didn't ban your ass like he did to ed sect.

I also recall you saying that JEB was too strict, but that was kind of a good thing. Zombo is doing his duties similarly to JEB, and the members here are also trying to self-patrol, just like in JEB. Was UCPSB just a place for you to vent your pent-up anger that came from JEB?



To Zombo: I <3 U

Alright this is going nowhere, let me make a deal with you. Let's settle this once and for all.

Here's what I'm going to do:

-Officially record the fight with Eriror as the trigger of your suspension.
-Allow people more time to settle their problems before intervening as a moderator.

Here's what you're going to do:

-Publicly apologize for your bad behaviour and spamming and admit that it is the main reason for which you were suspended.
-Promise to improve your attitude from now on.

Fair deal, no?

B) B) B) Zombo is cool. That is the most fair it could possibly get. I understand DA-R, point of view, and yea, I understand everything. Everyone is different. Everyone has a different point of view.

"Just the way it is!"

I still think that the deal is more than what REX deserves here... Zombo did everything correctly, according to the rule books... REX complains about everything.... Theres no reason for this deal, or for this thread.... REX did something (multiple actually) wrong, got called on it. Now he's sour about it.

get over it, its done.

okay?

then i'll say everything in one more word:

Ur too nice when it's nessacery to be strict in some places, but ur too strick when it's not nessacery.

That's probably the reason everyone thinks Zombo is "nice"



Of course, i think i would have already been suspended while ago for spamming, but it's not right when suspending me for a fight that was actually a misunderstanding.









okay, put it this way.




I am going to do the "Deal" except i cant ensure u changing my attitude. i say there wouldn't be any problem with my attitude, it's my spam, not attitude.

I spam, that's why everyone hates me okay? more than 10 people in here have same attitude like i do. but i see most of them having no problem.
its my personality that makes me post on Comment section about u, and that's why i get looked in a bad way. it's not attitude, it's my personality, and my decision about if i am going to put my comment publically or privately, or not saying anything.

That's why i have the most problem here. Cuz i write things publically than most people. and it's mostly about this board.

by attitude I mean having a more open mind. If you disagree with other people, try to understand their point of view and also explain clearly you own point of view. Not just say "I am right, you are wrong".

I think Zombo does a superb job, he runs this board!

Seems you are at best, nit picking, and at worst, wanting Zombo to be perfect. No-one's perfect, deal with it.

Zombo isn't nice per se, but he does what he has to. You seem to have trouble grasping the fact that the quarrel was not the reason you got suspended, no matter how many times Zombo or anyone else tells you. This is the narrow-minded attitude that Zombo was describing and that members don't want to see. Whether it was a fight or misunderstanding is irrelevant, because it could've been anything: a fight, more spam, a flame, whatever. The fact is that you were probably warned and kept annoying members to the point where one more action would have put you over the tolerable limit, which proved to be the case.

So stop complaining about the fight/misunderstanding/whatever and realize that it's more than just that. You're right that others spam too, but they have sense not to aggravate the problem by needlessly publicizing it. You say your personality leads you to treat the issue out in the open instead of privately, but your attitude is what prevents you from realizing you're only making things more complicated for yourself.

I don't see the problem here. The board has a Comments section for a reason. Even I've talked about the board in the past. The difference is that you're whining about a suspension that's over with and how the board doesn't cater to your personality. Believe me, a lot of us have had to sacrifice something by deciding to register and post at UCPSB, but you're the only one who seems to be making a big deal about it.

Zombo is doing his job one way or another. I made the decision to not read this whole thread, though, so I don't really know whats going on, and my post may be disregarded because of it. But if this thread is about critiquing how Zombo runs this board, then I say he's doing a bang-up-job, even if it may get whacky every now and again.

Zombo, brah,
"Heres to you, Heres to me
Best friends we'll always be
Even if we disagree
Heres to you, Heres to me"

:thumb:

P.S., BWALLIN!!

Dont worry Dark i got ur back....... i hav to agree with Dark Angel punishment dosnt solve all the problums..... somtimes u hav to use other ways like Talking and stuff to sort out the problome.