I've heard people tell me it's kinda like a half of a Gunman or something, but it resembles a Pass. So the only difference between a Passaround and a Pass would be the initial movement. Can someone show me a video of what a Passaround is? Preferably a video with just that trick alone. I've tried breaking apart the videos... even with the breakdowns in front of me I can't seem to catch where the Passaround is...

Thanks in advance!

a passaround (rev, im not sure) 23-12 would start with a middlearound push, but you stop the pen with index finger and land in 12 before the pen travels all the way around the middle finger.

Its half an around. e.g rev middle around but catch it at index instead of all the way around. Passaround 23-12

edit:lol just beat me to it. and i think reverse passaround is going down the fingers but inverse passaround starts with the normal around motion e.g middlearound but catch at 12

But how does this look any different from a Pass Rev 23-12? And why would you choose this over a simple Pass Rev?

well the pen with a normal pass is always in contact with ur hand but a passaround doesn't it spins half way around ur finger. I guess some people may find it more aestheticly appealing.

Okay Eso, you tell me what you would prefer:

Pass Reverse 23-12 --> Twisted Sonic Reverse 12-23
Passaround Reverse (the one with middlearound normal push) 23-12 --> Twisted Sonic Reverse 12-23

Currently, the Pass Reverse, becasue I can get that in a fluent way. :lol:

Um, the Pass Reverse I guess. The PassAround Reverse takes more effort than the Pass Reverse IMO.

Yeah I'm not really understanding the difference between a Passaround and a regular Reverse Pass.

Passaround Reverse 23-12 is just a pass reverse initiated by a middlearound kind of push, is it really that hard to understand?

Wait, I thought Passaround = Reverse Pass, not Reverse Passaround = Reverse Pass, now I'm even more confused.

Anyway a reverse pass from 23-12 is initiated by the ring finger pushing the pen. A Middlearound is also initiated by the ring finger pushing the pen. That's why I'm confused as to the difference between the two.

i don't like the name passaround. it sounds weird

anyways, the difference between the pass rev and passaround is that a pass rev uses a finger to pull the pen from it's original position, and passaround is kind of a 'half-(finger)around', when the pen isn't pulled, but pushed from it's origin.

As I currently think about it:

If you push like a Middlearound but the pen only travels the distance of a Pass Reverse (1/2 a rotation around the Middle finger), then it is a Passaround 23-12. There should be a short time where the pen is free from all fingers, as opposed to the Pass Reverse, where the pen is held throughout the entire trick.

I assume that since the Passaround Normal has the same kind of push and pen movement as an Indexaround, Middlearound, etc... a Passaround Normal travels in the same direction.


So yeah...same as tokuwee15, but using more words. :lol:

But what is the incentive for using one?

Whats the incentive of using a reverse pass?

if u guys look at PDS HOH, freshgel uses it really effectively when the pen looks lik its bouncing in his hand.
there r a bunch of times where the koreans throw it in, and it looks really nice.

PassAround- half of an "Around"

ie. picture doing a middlearound, but catching it halfway through between the next two fingers.

when we use passes, we usually just add in that extra charge to change it into a twisted/warped sonic of some sort.

Personally, I think it's pleasing to the eye, but I don't use it much

Putfile:
http://media.putfile.com/Ko-PassAroundDemo

PassAround23-12>TwistedSonicReverse>TwistedSonic>ThumbAround

I do realize that the naming is a little strange because the "passaround" describes "reverse pass", and vice versa.
-Ko

ok, i know that this topic was old, but i have a question about passarond. In the upsb+pendolsa video (№2) phoenix in his segment did some tricks, i think it's passaround. Am i right, or he doing something else?

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passaround its neo-sonic that ends not in T1. Start middle around normal and catch it in 12 when pen whas vertical to the ground. It will be passaround normal 23-12 or inverse neo-sonic 23-12

Bobr, you have it mixed up. A Passaround Normal 23-12 is half of a Middlearound that is caught between 12. The direction of spin is the same as a Middlearound, hence the "-around" in the Passaround.

What Bobr is thinking is a Passaround Reverse.

I personally think that Passaround is merely an illusion. It's just a name for variations of other tricks that exist already.

Passaround Normal = Half Around
Passaround Reverse = Half Around Reverse (OR Neosonic, but that is very sketchy. Need NC on this)

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I show difference between pass reverse 23-12 and passaround normal 23-12. PassAround normal technically is Inverse Neo-sonic normal. Start like MiddleAround and after half of rotation catch it in 12.

what is the use of this trick? I've read that koreans use it more but i dont really understand why.

Some passes are smoother when done as passarounds..

Thx bobr and shoeman

ahh

and what is half around?

Half around is not something I've heard used before... However, a PassAround is basically a half around.

After using it for a while I have the answer!

1) Because the receiving finger is not curled in, it looks better. It gives the impression that you're using less energy to go from 23 to 12. As opposed to a Pass Rev 23-12.

2) Because of the initial push, you can carry its momentum into other tricks. In a Pass Rev, you have to create the momentum. This feature is advantageous in certain situations/combos.



booya. No one has ever explained it like this before. I win.