I didnt find this on Master Threads Gatherings.

I need help with it. I think i can master backaround rise from ring finger, but i dont know how to do the pinky bak reverse when there's no other finger to support the pinky around rev.


i also have a question. Backaround Fall is Backaround normal, going down.
Is backaround rise: Backaround reverse, going up, or Backaround normal, going up?

As usual, naming some combos can be complicated, inaccurate, and unnecessary. Since the bak fall everybody does is just fl ia rev > pass 12-23 > fl ma rev > pass 23-34 > fl ra rev > fl pa rev, and rise and fall are opposites, then bak rise is fl pa > fl ra > pass rev 34-23 > fl ma > pass rev 23-12 > fl ia.

bakrise is rev baks going up

rev pinkybak starts in the same position as pinkybak + opp motion

eriror doing bakfall/rise harmonic

rev pinkybak > rev ringbak > rev pass 34-23 > rev midbak > rev pass 23-12 > rev bak

GL and HF learning it

The Pinkybak rev. is very hard to learn. I had big problems with it.

The problem with Pinky bak rev is that my ring finger and pinky makes my pen stuck

I had this problem too when I was learning bak rise. Just practice a lot and you'll get it. It shouldn't take you more than a month to learn.

And get a Grip Aviaire. :spin:

Thanx for the info guys. i'll go and practice :spin:


EDIT: and lets see if i could do this

try doing like a fingerless um devil's shadow reverse ( the one with the shadow and the fingerless pass maybe the name I put is wrong) That works for me

Ok I got really confused by this:

Isn't Bakfall Bak > pass 123 > midbak > pass 123-234 > ringbak > pass 234-34 > pinkyaround?


EDIT: okay now I've checked the bakfall thread and I think I got more confused about the trick... I really miss the conclave

Fl Ia, Ma, Ra, and Pa are just other names for Baks, well sorta, since "korean" baks are just called Fl Ia, etc.

I like to keep things simple and think of Backaround Rise as:

Backaround 34-T1-23 > Backaround 23-T1-12 > Backaround 12-T1
:beer:
Each Backaround goes through the T1 slot, as I believe that they were originally intended to do.

Edit:

*sketching smacks nike t upside the head.

You're right, what he's saying is that people don't do true baks, they hold the pen too far away from the base of their fingers.

Yeah Bakaround Rise and Fall should be done like sketching said. Just normal backarounds without doing passes or other shit.

i dont know, i think i can still be called a backaround...

i mean, a korean bak can spin 1.5 times, and a normal fl rev ia, (or any around in that case) cannot spin...theres nothing to spin on.

so in another words, sketching is trying to say that Backaround rise isn't what Eriror did on his vid, which what Eriror actually did was Backaround reverse rise.


Well i just realized something. Nevermind the above. Eriror wrote "Harmonic". therefore backaround fall and Backaround rise, for Eriror, it seems like Backaround rise is Bkacaround reverse rise.

Any vid??

I don't understand about this this? it's pa>flpassrev>ra>flpassrev>ma>flpassrev>ia

(my country block youtube give another site?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfmbmUo1KAk