Some tricks that I've hardly seen around. Anyone care to learn some of these rather than what they were previously working on? It might introduce some variety...

Arm Rolls (up and down)
Elbow catches/pops (catching the pen in the elbow slot, pop is releasing it out by popping the arm)
Knee bounces (see spring collab, Pike's combo)
Finger arounds that go around more than one finger (normal and revs) eg, MiddleIndexAround
Shadows/baks with more than 1.5 spins (A Shadow or Bak with more than the usual amount of spins)
Stalls (just the pen stalled on somewhere)
SpiderSpins (see Kam's Pentrix website)
itricks (tricks where the pen appears to vanish, i = invisible)
levitator/most other air tricks (An air trick that uses pressure, check Weis's site)
interceptions (immediately executing a trick from the air, without first catching the pen)
Backhand Tracer (see Kam's Pentrix website)
BakTaps
Bakflip
Air NeoBak
Twisted Pass
Teleports
Telepotation
OC tricks (where you open the cap at beginning of trick, and close it afterwards)
Snap Flips
Arounds with not 1.0 spins. (IndexAround 1.5, 0.5 for example_
Multiple spins palmspins (getting lots of spins on palmspins)
TapHarmonics (Tap > Tap Rev)
Landing tricks in other slots than as normal?
Magic Reset
Bball Spin (Zombo wrote a tutorial on this not long ago)
Floating Passaround
Waterfall
TF Charge
2p2h including tricks like Pesp did in the RMX + ES collab
maybe taking some devil's sticks tricks to pen spinning?
sonic 12-T1?
finger twirls (kelvinchan's trick)
counters (Executing a trick, and then using a fingerless force to bring it back before the trick finishes)
Under the finger arounds. (MiddleAround 12 - 12 for example)

I encourage you to reply to this thread and say you are interested in exploring one or more of these areas. Maybe a couple of you could team up to do it? Let's really push this art/sport to it's limit. Also, feel free to add your ideas for rare tricks that you think people might wish to look into... I'll update this list with them.

Looks like I'm not doing that bad after all..

How about multiple spin Palmspins like Scott does?

how about BackHand tracer, baktaps, bakflip, air neobak (jus flick the wrist), twisted pass (infinity type trick by NHK), teleport (le0n), teleportation (tohlz), OC tricks (where you open the cap at the beginning of the combo, and replace it after).

Also my favourite snap flip to shirt pocket.

And triangle pass, which was virtually unused, is now more popular due to bonkura, which is cool. Hope someone does the same with SpiderSpin.

What about my TA 1.5 technique?

*Wants to know*

Wow, look at all the virtually unexplored areas already... If some spinners were to take up exploration of these areas, new styles would surely blossom!

sorry I meant, rev TA 1.5

It's actually a spin transfer from a rev TA into a sidespin.

It's real breakdown would by rev TA ~ rev sidespin .5 for 1.5 rotations (could do more easily).

http://media.putfile.com/rev-TA-15 (original + slow)

Mats, that's exactly what the RD is for, is it not? For people motivated, not satisfied with the current state of spinning, who wants to improve PS. The truth is that only a minority of people are talented and motivated enough to actually go out and improve PS itself. You can't ask everybody to do it, I realize that that's why I made the RD.

I added arounds without 1.0 spins because I thought that was what you meant. :lol:

I'll add this to the list too.

Anyone care to step forward and say 'Yes, this area is of interest to me, I'll probably look into it?'

I doubt you'll be able to organize some like this in the open... maybe inside the RD yeh...

Do you mean the trick where you transfer the spin from thumb to base of thumb?

how about MiddleSpin and IndexSpin, IndexSideSpin, the infinity variation leviathan invented, fronthandtracer, sidespin, hand transitions, anti-gravity, inverse infinity varitions (check penzone 2nd or some NHK video), devil's shadow, "sonic swing" (tokuwee named these basicly sonic ~ wiper)

any other tricks?

edit:
backaround around 2, 3 fingers (I'm working on Backaround 23-12-23 1.5 cont. currently)
Shadow T1- ____
Rev. shadow T1 - _______

I knew you would say something like that... So I PMed you. This can be organised in the open, and I feel would benefit from it. I'll be the first to step forward, and will say I'll look into elbow moves. I filmed a video with one elbow catch > elbow pop earlier today for a battle, that ya'll will see once it's been judged. I'll look into what else can be done, how it can be used, what makes it look nice etc...

Now other people, step forth and choose an area to explore!

This is what PSing is about.

That's funny, I thought of that a few days ago. Didn't really practise that yet, though.

Other things I thought of are Arounds to different slots [working on it for WT] and tap harmonics [you've seen them, Mats].

yes thats the one, that what I just posted.

@ Mats, I mean sure you can do it. I just think that in addition, we could assign areas of research inside the RD which we know will be intensively researched.

Let me tell you what tricks aren't used

Magic Reset - Look for my video in the Spinners in Black collab
Bball Spin
Floating Passaround - A passaround that does not go around a finger. Instead it can either spin in midair or it can spin on the middle finger's tip... Like a ghetto Bball Spin.
Waterfall - One part of it would be that trick Bonkura did between finger 1 of both hands. Look for it in his solo video. The real one.
TF Charge

Care to explain what they are?

Zombo: You posted while I was writing my post so I didn't see your next post :P

2p2h including tricks like Pesp did in the RMX + ES collab
maybe taking some devil's sticks tricks to pen spinning?
sonic 12-T1?
finger twirls (kelvinchan's trick)
counters

2p2h is getting more and more explored, including by me, haha.
Sonic 12-T1 is tried out by Eso, I believe.
Finger Twirl is what Eso calls Water.
Counters are being explored as well.

Haha, I was trying that out before, so so hard.

First page list updated.

Why not just make a competition?

"Daily Trick"

Every day, a new trick to do, y'know?

(Or week, or whatever)

We are not looking for new tricks... We are looking for exporation of rare tricks.

Trick of the month will probably never return I'm afraid.

I find the best way to invent new tricks is when you're not pressure to deliver on a regular basis.

Wow, so much good stuff in this topic. I'm gonna have to practice these.

Hm, what's that?

I'll look into this, its a area of intrest for me hahaha :ssst:

but these tricks I am acutlly going to look into add a lil variety

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKy9CEWsJ3I

I was always thinking about what Pesp did, but never did it, he was amazing. Interesting area to look into

so what if i use one of these in a combo it automatically becomes creative?
understand it is not one trick that makes a combo creative. its is the wholistic composition of the combo. im not claiming im creative. im saying ppl lik leviathan are truely creative even without using random retarded obscure tricks. because once ppl start sticking these random things in their combos its going to be come obsolete again. look at levi's or bonkura's vids and youll see what true creative style is.

None of those are new tricks IMO it just looks like wiper -> pass -> rev charge and wiper -> pass -> rev charge -> rev inv. sonic... etc

edit: some of the tricks arent really underused either. TF charge is all the time, theres gunman -> rev flap charge -> fl ta rev & also twisted sonic -> thumb charge -> TA that people do a lot... maybe not in ucpsb but ive seen it plenty & i use it too. And multiple spin palmspins are overused, not barely used. They're in a lot of people solo videos & one of the ps promos has like 4 in a row.

I kinda mean Multiple PalmSpin in the middle of a combo, like Michael used to do. Not single, not at the end.

nobody said we were going for creativity in thread, we're merely listing unusual tricks, that's all.

Ah I see what you mean. I dont really like multiple spins in the middle of a combo, I think depending on the trick 1 to 1.5 is plenty to get the point across, but thats just me

i was thinkin of a trick called infinity rise. dunno if its been done before but yo udo infinity starting at 43 and going up.

That already exists ;)

@frisbee, well even if it's a combo, leviathan is the only one that has used it. The trick is basicly Ext. infinity but the charge goes in the other direction

Yeah thats what I said, he also does versions with multiple rev charges, reverse inverse sonic & reverse warped sonic. I just dont think its really a "rare trick" seeing as it doesnt have a name or anything

i haven't done sonic 12-t1, but i did sonic 13-tf in my battle against flip

i do ok
some of these i dont do on camera but for the most part you know what i do :D

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rare = inv neo bak
inv neo bak fall
inv shadows

Yes I have been looking into an arm roll to arm pop. Arm roll is not too hard. I've also been trying to catch and arm pop in the devils stall position so I can hold the pen upside down (see http://z15.invisionfree.com/UCPSB/index.php?showtopic=6655) The landing it in devil horns stall position is hardest. I have also been experimenting with triangle spins, because Bonkura does them and I am stalking him. J/K Although he is awesome.

My triangle infinity (i write about in in "What am i doing" thread)

And i can easyly do sonic 12-T1, rev sonic T1-12, as well as tipped sonics (there iis a little difference bettwen this tricks), i think this isn't rare trick.

I have an idea about new conception - fake arounds. I post topic about this later.

Sadly, a fair portion of the rare tricks listed i dont even know what they are -_- Some do sound pretty cool though.

And not to be a hater but i honestly think elbow/knee/foot tricks are the some of the worst tricks ever. They are rare for a reason <_< ... they add awkward pauses in your combo and just dont look that good. Not to mention the vast majority of people filming combo's have shit cameras and so you cant even see regular finger tricks let alone trying to see them toss the pen around.

yes, this is why the RD is working on making them more appealing. We call it Body spinning.

Okay, the list is there and nicely populated... Are we going to see some more variety in the next few months now?

My arm roll to rev arm pop (the one I won't shutup about) has no pauses at all