Title: Penspinning Wiki Development
Ephem - June 29, 2007 01:21 PM (GMT)
Hi all ^^
I am currently going to start a Pen Spinning Wiki, much like psconclave.com, but this one, in several languages, starting with french and english.
The address will be PenSpinZone.Net
Everyone will be able to access it and modify elements to make it better, with more and more accurate information.
I am still in planning stages, but I need AlloPass codes to pay the domain and the hosting, I will pay some, but I can't pay all.
So if anyone has any ideas, contributions or such, please post here, and if you can give me a AlloPass, please send me a PM.
Thanks =]
Zombo - June 29, 2007 01:23 PM (GMT)
I thought nexus was doing something.
Ephem - June 29, 2007 01:25 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Zombo @ Jun 29 2007, 01:23 PM) |
| I thought nexus was doing something. |
Well, I've already started =]
I just need to get the money to get a domain up and running.
I'll probably post on GPC too, so I can make a German version
neXus - June 29, 2007 01:48 PM (GMT)
I started aswell. Hosting is up in 3 days. Talk to mats.
edit:
Please don't tell me you used that crappy free.fr FPSB uses ...
Ephem - June 29, 2007 03:24 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (neXus @ Jun 29 2007, 01:48 PM) |
I started aswell. Hosting is up in 3 days. Talk to mats.
edit:
Please don't tell me you used that crappy free.fr FPSB uses ... |
Course not, got a proffesionnal PAYING host =]
Can you contact me on MSN so we can organise something together ?
fuzzyshan - June 29, 2007 04:00 PM (GMT)
sounds cool ill make a Czech version when the time comes. maybe you could use the google caches of psconclave to gather information.
Webo Splash - July 1, 2007 03:52 AM (GMT)
Fudge yeah! Another "psconclave"! Man I missed that site; so much info on stuff. Good luck Ephem. :bowdown:
RippDrive - July 1, 2007 08:08 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (neXus @ Jun 29 2007, 10:48 AM) |
| I started aswell. Hosting is up in 3 days. Talk to mats. |
So am I to understand that you talked to mats? Did you get a backup of PSC?
If you are reopening with all the PSC content I would happily help pay for the hosting. I think that PSC was one of the best things to ever happen to PS. Make sure you add a donate button when you get it up :P
JinFX - July 1, 2007 09:23 AM (GMT)
Hey all
I'd just like to say that i think its great if we can revive PSC, but I think the run of PSC showed that the pen spinning community was not very receptive of a wiki format. It does create a standard to build articles on, but every time I checked recent changes and top editors lists I was reminded that the actual content was still primarily proprietary, and even going so far as to fall into a pattern where one editor would get tired and an incoming editor (Sketching) would find himself almost alone. I'm not saying I won't welcome and continue work on a pen spinning wiki, but I wish that the same community who feel that PSC was so useful would feel more compelled to make use of it as a wiki and less as an encyclopedia. I would rather see a little vandalism than the old edits to page views ratios.
O and I hope my name is still familiar... I m kind of coming back from an unannounced vacation.
ShoeMan - July 1, 2007 07:54 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (JinFX @ Jul 1 2007, 09:23 AM) |
Hey all
I'd just like to say that i think its great if we can revive PSC, but I think the run of PSC showed that the pen spinning community was not very receptive of a wiki format. It does create a standard to build articles on, but every time I checked recent changes and top editors lists I was reminded that the actual content was still primarily proprietary, and even going so far as to fall into a pattern where one editor would get tired and an incoming editor (Sketching) would find himself almost alone. I'm not saying I won't welcome and continue work on a pen spinning wiki, but I wish that the same community who feel that PSC was so useful would feel more compelled to make use of it as a wiki and less as an encyclopedia. I would rather see a little vandalism than the old edits to page views ratios.
O and I hope my name is still familiar... I m kind of coming back from an unannounced vacation. |
I think that now we all understand how useful and great it is, more people will help out and create/update articles..I know I will..
P.S: your name isn't familiar to me, glad to see you're back? :P
sketching - July 1, 2007 08:24 PM (GMT)
@Shoeman: he was only one of the PSConclave Admins, no big deal. :P
@JinFX: first off, good to hear from you again. :)
I hope that PSConclave will be able to open again, rather than a new wiki be started. Even there was a way to copy the old info to a new home, I would assume it would be a lot of work. Even more so to build a new one from scratch.
JinFX - July 1, 2007 09:13 PM (GMT)
Well over about a two year span I had about a hundred posts here too, but I guess my post count had always been small anyway.
Imagine how much Elliot had to do to get PSC off the ground, simply organization and article wise. I guess we'll just have to see what they put together.
Is multiple languages going to be completely independent sets of wikis, with corresponding articles linked?
shuya - July 4, 2007 12:06 AM (GMT)
not sure how easy it is to extract info... also not sure if anyone has more useful backups of psconclave but archive.org has a pretty good cache of the site at:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070222010112r.../wiki/Main_Pageand older versions can be found at:
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.psconclave.com
JinFX - July 4, 2007 02:46 AM (GMT)
The two things I look for are not archived. I am sincerely thankful nonetheless.
Ephem - July 4, 2007 07:43 AM (GMT)
I've been told not to do this project because psconclave.com is reopening;..
I still think this new one is a better idea since it will be internationnal.
Tim - July 5, 2007 08:47 AM (GMT)
Hope you hadn't already paid for the server. When do you think it will re-opening, next month, 2 months ,3 months,later, sooner?
Ephem - July 5, 2007 08:49 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Tim @ Jul 5 2007, 08:47 AM) |
| Hope you hadn't already paid for the server. When do you think it will re-opening, next month, 2 months ,3 months,later, sooner? |
I payed for the server, but not the domain, so I am using the server for my site now.
And I don't know when psconclave is reopening.
neXus - July 5, 2007 11:37 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (RippDrive @ Jul 1 2007, 10:08 AM) |
So am I to understand that you talked to mats? Did you get a backup of PSC?
If you are reopening with all the PSC content I would happily help pay for the hosting. I think that PSC was one of the best things to ever happen to PS. Make sure you add a donate button when you get it up :P |
I let Ephem do it.
Yeah i had the backup but it was unuseable.
Ephem - August 4, 2007 09:25 AM (GMT)
PROJECT BACK UP !!
Ok, so I got hosting, 4Gigs, I suppose it's enough xD
Now, I need to find some wiki software, any ideas ?
Also, it will be under :
www.flashspyre.com/penspinzone
Unless I can get 9€ donations, like 1€ per person or so, Paypal or whatever, and then i'll be able to purchase the www.penspinzone.net domain.
Help needed xD
neXus - August 4, 2007 10:26 AM (GMT)
Zombo - August 4, 2007 02:48 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Ephem @ Aug 4 2007, 05:25 AM) |
PROJECT BACK UP !!
Ok, so I got hosting, 4Gigs, I suppose it's enough xD Now, I need to find some wiki software, any ideas ? Also, it will be under : www.flashspyre.com/penspinzone Unless I can get 9€ donations, like 1€ per person or so, Paypal or whatever, and then i'll be able to purchase the www.penspinzone.net domain.
Help needed xD |
try a free domain redirect like co.nr first...
Ephem - August 4, 2007 03:49 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Zombo @ Aug 4 2007, 02:48 PM) |
| QUOTE (Ephem @ Aug 4 2007, 05:25 AM) | PROJECT BACK UP !!
Ok, so I got hosting, 4Gigs, I suppose it's enough xD Now, I need to find some wiki software, any ideas ? Also, it will be under : www.flashspyre.com/penspinzone Unless I can get 9€ donations, like 1€ per person or so, Paypal or whatever, and then i'll be able to purchase the www.penspinzone.net domain.
Help needed xD |
try a free domain redirect like co.nr first...
|
Suppose I could ^^
Right now you can go to www.flashspyre.com/penspinzone
Percentage of it done is coming :P
AlmightyMalachi - August 4, 2007 03:53 PM (GMT)
sweet deal, good job though man. still we have a place in our hearts :teach: for PSconclave*moment of Silence*
Ephem - August 4, 2007 04:39 PM (GMT)
Opened English Version ! ^_^
RippDrive - August 4, 2007 06:26 PM (GMT)
So you don't need money for hosting, just for a domain?
TBH I'm not a fan of the name, have you ever considered anything else? =P
Also, if you are asking for donations it would be great if you put up a paypal button or something.
silv3rmind - August 4, 2007 06:30 PM (GMT)
Nice project, I'll gladly help on anything needed and I would also be interested in contributing for the Portuguese version of the wiki. So if you need anything I'll try to help on what I can :grin:
Edit: Btw, if you're looking for hosting/domain try checking
http://www.dreamhost.com/
nateiskewl - August 4, 2007 07:00 PM (GMT)
Does this mean we can start creating pages!?!
Ephem - August 4, 2007 07:24 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (nateiskewl @ Aug 4 2007, 07:00 PM) |
| Does this mean we can start creating pages!?! |
Yep ^^
Name isn't TBH, it's PSZ xD
And I have a host already, just need 9€ xD
xz64 - August 4, 2007 07:56 PM (GMT)
Ephem - August 4, 2007 08:36 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (xz64 @ Aug 4 2007, 07:56 PM) |
| TBH = To be honest |
oh xD
Well, I chose that to not complicate, to get a name that would sound good for someone who doesn't have clue what pen spinning is
Sfsr - August 4, 2007 09:01 PM (GMT)
What pages do we need? Do we have any of the info left from the old PSC? How do you even create a page?
xz64 - August 4, 2007 10:52 PM (GMT)
How do you upload a file?
nateiskewl - August 4, 2007 11:57 PM (GMT)
It just like wikipedia. Google it.
platypusvictim9 - August 5, 2007 02:22 AM (GMT)
Oh my god, thank you SOOOOOOO much for this ephem(and anyone who helped, not sure) :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: I'm gonna see if I can add anything, hopefully I can help.
Omigod I have no idea wut I'm doing :blink:
xz64 - August 5, 2007 03:26 AM (GMT)
To create a page, you have to search for whatever you want to create and then it will say, "There is no page titled ':search'. You can create this page." Click create this page to make it.
Sfsr - August 5, 2007 12:55 PM (GMT)
Geh, I fail at the wiki system. There was no page for Fundamental Tricks, so I created one. Then I realized there was a Fundamental Tricks category. Wo only need one of them, and that's the Fundamental Tricks category, right?
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| QUOTE (xz64) |
| How do you upload a file? |
| QUOTE (PSZ) |
| File uploads are disabled on this wiki. |
edit: the pictures won't work :(
RippDrive - August 5, 2007 05:52 PM (GMT)
I think those who are skilled at wiki code should make the template pages before we get to carried about. At least a temple for tricks and one for families/catagories right now.
xz64 - August 5, 2007 07:45 PM (GMT)
I'm trying to make some templates for tutorials like the old PSConclave. I'm no expert at wiki markup though.
Ephem - August 6, 2007 11:07 AM (GMT)
Well, I wanted to post to say thanks, you guys are really helping this project work, especially Sfsr and Xz64, it's realy nice of you guys, hope more people contribute and this Wiki becomes full and has everything anyone would need in it
Sfsr - August 6, 2007 04:03 PM (GMT)
Problem is I've never updated a Wiki before, so I don't know how to make pwetty thingies :/