You can do many tricks using sonic clip. Check firefaiths topic for a sonic clip to twisted sonic. When the pen is in between fingers 2 and 4, 4 replaces 3. So you could start with a sonic clip and halfway thrpough, do a sonic, shadow, neosonic, middlearound reverse, inverse sonic or other tricks. You can get many variations this way. You don't have to start with sonic clip. You could do fingerpass with your ring or middle finger folded in and then do a trick. You can try Infinity without your middle or ring finger. Basically, you can get a variation this way with any trick or almost any trick. I'll put some videos up sometime.

yea hi think it's facinating ... you can make many variations by the sonic clip and it allways looks cool :D B)

Been doing this for a long time. I do a lot of tricks this way with 13, 24, etc. and not only beginning with sonic clip or even sometimes not even including sonic clip at all. For example, one of my favorites is indexaround with a 13 catch, middle finger out, then an inverse charge reverse and then a twisted sonic reverse 23-34.

The way I see it in my own little naming convention, whether I'm right or wrong, is that there is no 1/2 sonic clip or anything like that, but the 23-13 part is a sonic in it's own right and the sonic clip is merely a combo of sonic 23-13 -> sonic 13-12. This mode of thinking opens up an entire new range of variation and uniqueness in combos. Including all combinations of fingers, including 24, 13, T2, 14, T3, and T4, there are exactly 100 possible variations (if you can pull them off) of the sonic1.5/shadow, and the same goes for the reverse. I highly doubt I'm the first to come up with this, but I've never seen anything like this posted anywhere on UPSB/UCPSB. Just thought I'd pitch in my 2 cents lol.

Isn't Sonic Clip 432 -> Twisted Sonic 321 basically just a Demon's Sonic with an extra Charge between 4 and 2?