THEME: Linkage (ONLY take this into account for your vote)


Eriror:
http://media.putfile.com/Ladder---Eriror-v...riror-his-Video
http://rapidshare.com/files/48597559/simplecombo365.WMV.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfjtX5fXjh4

Fratleym:
http://media.putfile.com/fratleym--eriror-...llwinnooneknows

I voted for Eriror. Sorry Frat, I still love you :), Eriror is just too good nowadays.

Really close...Frat's combo was really interesting...was like a cool breeze, but Eriror is just so fucking slick it's unbelievable... it's just not fair to duel him to be honest :(
I would really love a break down of your combo Frat.

WOO!!

go eriror!

fratleym i admire your creativity alot. ^_^

This is probably the best battle ever held at ucpsb. But i'd like a youtube link from fratleym before I vote. Putfile is, as always a bit laggy :(
euhm, and while im posting I might just say that Erirors combo made me go :jawdrop:
That infinitysequence was really hot :)

he almost always does some sort of infinity sequence, and every time it blows me away. this time even more because it followed that...spin over the hand and...damn you Eriror :(

i voted for frat cause hes was more creative. i think erirors combos look the same-_-

I enjoyed frat's more.

I always loved Frat's combo.. It's new and refreshing every time. To be honest I predicted Frat to win this battle before the poll. But sorry man, Eriror's combo is just too sick. I never enjoy his vid this much before...just sooo amazing. I'm so glad you didn't save this for Dongza. Voted Eriror.

I'm saving even worse things for Dongza. ;)

Breakdown later, I nulled for fairness.

Ugh, i can't decide, I nulled.

Although a youtube link of Frat's vid would be nice please.

even though I already nulled....god I'm stupid....

frat combo are great ...but i vote for Erriror :grin:

i voted for frat seeing as how the theme was linkage i thought that frat had more crazy linkages and such so yeah :B
i <3 both of u ;]

I dont see a theme :dunno:

it should be in the first post if there is one.... get on that flip :P



anywho, i dont think alot of people noticed the subtle things that made Eriror's combo fucking amazing. Alot of people just watch the video, and dont really study it to see who should actually win .... Like for example the counter in the middle of the video.... that was purely sick.


Frat's combo also had alot of less subtle awesome-ness. The TA Harmonic sequence for example. it takes ALOT of skill to pull that off ...


but, after looking at most of the same criteria that judges would go through if this were a judged match, and not just a public poll, this one has to go to Eriror...

i agree with xHamor, this is a battle of epic proportions...

Omg Eriror. Freakin Awesome Like Idk what to do now.

Inverse sonic 13>Sonic 13-T> Palmspin .

I don't even fuckin know if thats right, but it was amazing.


Then the Wiper Reverse>Middleindex bak>fl ta rev

Wtf. You're amazing.


Then frat.

Like i don't even know where to start. That first part of your combo was sweet.

I always liked your vids frat cause i never knew what you were doing. It'd always look crazy. I love it.



I haven't voted yet. But i think i'll probaly end up nulling.

I did this to your guys's last battle. I could never decide which one i like better.

I think based on linkage alone, frat's was more intriguing due to the complex (COMPLEX DOES NOT MEAN DIFFICULT) nature of the linkages, and that's the only judging criteria, so...

I like Eriror's counter very much though.

PS: if the criterion were general, I would have voted for Eriror.

Damn, Frat's linkages are fucking sick. Eriror's combo was smooth as always, he knows his shit.

I really can't decide on which one to vote for, it's too sick for me. xD.

Vote: NULLED

omg, I love you both :wub:

I didn't know this was based on linkage and I don't think many others knew either.

its the first thing written in the post, and it was mentionned in the challenge thread... even I knew it was about linkage before I even read this thread.

Well Flip just added that in recently then. Oh well.

Eriror

RA 34 -> Pass Rev 34-23 -> Twisted Sonic Rev 23-34 -> Pass 34-23 -> Devil's Sonic 23-(T)1 ~ PS 0.5 (T)1-34 -> Demon's Sonic 34-12 -> Pass Rev 12-T1 -> Wiper Rev T1 -> Figure 8 Rev T1 -> Pass T1-34 -> Moonwalk Sonic Rev 34-23 -> FL MA Rev 1.0 23-T1 ~> FL TA Rev T1 -> Pass T1-23 -> Charge 0.5 23 ~ Inv Sonic 0.5 23-13 ~> Pass 13-34 -> Twisted Sonic 34-23 -> MA Rev 0.5 23-T1 ~> FL TA Rev T1 -> Pass T1-12 -> FL IA Rev 1.0 12-T1 ~> FL TA Rev T1 -> Pass T1-12 -> Pass 12-23 -> Twisted Sonic 23-12 -> Counter IA Rev 12 -> Charge Rev 0.5 12 ~ Inv Sonic Rev 12-13 ~> Pass Rev 13-34 -> RA 34 -> Pass Rev 34-23 -> MA 23 -> Twisted Sonic Rev 23-34 -> Pass 34-23 -> Devil's Sonic 23 -> Twisted Sonic 1.0 23-12 ~ FL IA 1.0 12 ~> FL IA Release 12-23

Fratleym

Sonic 34-24 0.5 ~ MA Rev 0.5 23-T2 ~ MA 0.5 T2-23 ~ Sonic Rev 0.5 23-24 ~> Pass Rev 24-12 -> Inv Twisted Sonic Rev 12-24 -> MA Rev 0.5 24-T2 ~> TA T2-T1 -> TA Rev T1-T3 -> TA T3-T2 -> TA Rev T2-T3 -> TA T3-T1 -> Charge 0.5 T1 ~ IA 0.5 T1-12 ~ Charge Rev 0.5 12 ~ Inv Sonic Rev 0.5 12-13 ~> Pass Rev 13-34 -> Demon's Sonic 34-12 -> IA Rev 0.5 12-T12 ~ MA 0.5 T12-23 ~ Sonic Rev 0.5 23-24 ~> Pass Rev 24-12 -> Inv Twisted Sonic Rev 12-24 -> Charge Rev 0.5 24 ~ Twisted Sonic 24-12 -> Pass Rev 12-T1 -> Wiper Rev T1 -> Pass T1-23 -> Pseudo Sonic 23 -> Inv Twisted Sonic Rev 23-34 -> Twisted Sonic 34-23 -> Twisted Sonic 23-12 -> Pass Rev 12-T1 -> Wiper Rev T1 -> Pass T1-34 -> Sonic 0.5 34-24 ~ MA Rev 0.5 24-T1 ~> FL TA T1

I'm pretty sure that's right..haha.

Fratleym started out strong (00:06-00:10 was very good), but 00:12-00:14 was a bit wobbly and the end was weak.

Eriror, I think could have added more 'power' in the Middlebak ~> FL TA Rev sequence (actually, the Bak ~> FL TA Rev sequence had the 'power' I wanted to see in the Middlebak ~> FL TA Rev sequence), and the catch at 23 is a little unusual. But I did enjoy your RA -> Pass Rev -> MA near the end; it speed built up well for the finish.

I feel honored to be a member of a board that has two of the worlds best going heads up like this!! I honestly had a hard time with this, The smoothness Eriror has obtained is unimaginably amazing!!! Frat is always exicting becuz he is definitely one of the most creative spinners out there. Thank you both for giving wack spinners like myself something to shoot for!!!

Vote went to Frat, but it was the toughest vote i've ever made on a ladder match

Corrections in red. :) Still a nice job breaking it down.

Thanks for the contructive critisism, I'll try to work on it. I should have known Fratleym would do his really complex linkage stuff... So lovely.

its like adidas vs nike.

they r both so good that its so hard to choose between them

so ahrd that it wld have been a null

:clap: u guys r like 2 giants competing! it wld be interesting who wld win.

I'm going to have to full heartedly agree with Zombo on this one. Frat took this one and ran with it. His linkage was fucking ridiculous. Vote goes to Frat.

Eriror, I loved that combo. It was one of your better ones, and at least on my top 10 of you. With a theme like linkage, you couldn't have had a harder competitor, brah.

This was a battle for the books.

ahaha it may be true but I love this ending, cant help doing ti when it works^^

For those who are really interested, the hardest part of my combo was not actually the flashy one, it's quickly done and eyes dont capture it easily.

it's the infinity part, I dont do a "pseudo sonic like someone said" it's more complex as it's wiper, it's a trick I've done for my last vid of the WT, it's a wiper charge in-out middlefinger, let's say something like that, it starts with a charge 13 (like sonic clip style) and then I put out the middlefinger to keep on the move of the charge but as the middlefinger is out it's more a charge 13( inv sonic style)

that move was the one for the tournament but this time, i've added another thing to give an impression of a counter infinity, I just put keep on the old move and I've added a rev inv warped sonic 23-34 (I think it's that not sure about it...).

This way the pen, seems to be thrown in another direction, I thought it was nice linkage^^

Anyway Eriror's vid is godlike, one of the best I've seen from him ever

voted for eriror...


PS : here is a dl link for my video...
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WHVG1JYH

that infinity sequence from eriror just blew me away. and with that counter O.O i just had to vote him xD

I really think Frat should have won this, especially with the theme as it is.
Voted: Eriror

Mats, that didn't make sense.

That's sneaky!

That too! ><

Umm, I'm not sure, but maybe you understood me wrong. Your end sequence was a good set of tricks, but it was performed weak (especially the FL TA catch).

Haha, sorry! I broke it straight from putfile, so I made careless errors, just like in Eriror's combo breakdown. ><

remember. its mats.

and i voted for frat cuz eiriror beat me in a battle

j/k
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but i liked frat's better. Crazy linkages.

actually it does make sense.... he's saying that frat should have done better, and therefore should've won.

but he didnt, so he voted for Eriror.

i think frat's did better, as i interpreted the theme as difficulty of linking smoothly.

both linked equally smoothly, but Eriror was faster. frat has more complex linkages which are difficult to do smoothly, but he did. therefore he got my vote.

If I saw the Linkage theme I might have looked at it at a different angle, and I guess that if you look purely on that then maybe Frat does have the upper hand, but I think that the smoothness and speed also add an effect which is why Eriror still owns.

very true.

but seeing linkages alone, Frat seems to have the more creative side, and according to the theme, he might just get past, but only if the judging criteria by the public is linkages alone.

over all both of them own. :banana:

Don't just look at what the linkages are, but how they are done. ;)

I agree with strat's first post, my linkages are more subtle, but Fratleym's linkages are more complex and are more easily seen.

that makes absolutly no sense.

so if one person has great linking, but is spinning a x4 extended KT, and drops the pen 6 times, and past the good linking, isnt smooth at all, we ignore all that??

i think we should maybe focus on link, but thats not the ONLY thing we should look at ...

and i might have voted differently if that had been there from the start, but i doubt it...

well in this case the pen doesnt matter i think, cuz they're both spinning "fair" pens???

they said it was linkage, so linkage it is. If they said "Focus on linkage" then it would be different.

that was just an example, obviously that was the extreme instance ... but this battle is still the same... you cant vote on ONLY linkage, that doenst make sense

why not? if they agreed on thte theme, I don't see why it's not possible.

if the theme was "Best camera angle", you would judge only by the angle and not the combo itself, would you not?