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Title: Middlearound


Pinoy - April 22, 2006 05:37 AM (GMT)
i cant find this, anyone know how to do it? breakdown?


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sicxer_ - April 22, 2006 05:51 AM (GMT)
Do you know how to do a index around? Its exactly the same thing here, except with starting position in 23. The position of the pen and push-off is the same, except with the index finger curled down so it dosn't hit the pen, and then the pen goes around the middle finger. I don't think I've seen a video of it either.

Pinoy - April 22, 2006 11:43 AM (GMT)
i just cant seem to even do the index arround, the pen goes flying to the ground

zepiroth76 - April 24, 2006 09:58 PM (GMT)
well, if you can't do the indexaround, then you can't do the middlearound or pinkyaround.

killsburydohboy - April 24, 2006 10:22 PM (GMT)
If you want to do middle, index, or ringaround they're all the same basic movement. For index around you put the pen in 12, then kind of curl your middle finger in towards your palm. Make sure the cop is on the palm side and then catch it in 12 again. It just takes practice, but make sure the cop is on the side of the palm, other wise it won't work.

Toast - April 24, 2006 11:03 PM (GMT)
im also trying to learn index around. i tried to do waht killsbury said, but i ended doing a reverse sonic <_<

tips?

nike t - April 24, 2006 11:50 PM (GMT)
woah how'd u end up with a reverse sonic lol go to pentix they have a tut there

Yiep - April 25, 2006 05:45 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Toast14 @ Apr 25 2006, 12:03 AM)
im also trying to learn index around. i tried to do waht killsbury said, but i ended doing a reverse sonic <_<

tips?

I had that problem to. Now, the thing I did was to not try to learn Index around from the beggining. But learning the startingmove. So I pressed my index and middle finger tight together after I tossed it. So the pen will land on the knuckles. After some minutes my brain/hand got used to that move, and I could start practising Index around.

Good luck ;)

::Chun:: - May 18, 2007 12:21 AM (GMT)
How come when i spin middle around, after the spin , i can't catch on the same position or the cop :dunno: , always at the end of the pen.. and how to spin con middle around??

frisbee - May 18, 2007 12:31 AM (GMT)
Your index finger should be extended when you do the trick, not curled in. Make sure you're doing that

strat1227 - May 18, 2007 12:40 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (frisbee @ May 17 2007, 08:31 PM)
Your index finger should be extended when you do the trick, not curled in. Make sure you're doing that

um, fail??


I curl mine in.... and i think fitz (the master of cont MA) curls his in also <_<


idk how i do it.... kinda just dont catch it when you normally would, wait a second and gravity will take it back to right position.


Edit:
Poll: Index finger curled in or sticking out?

::Chun:: - May 18, 2007 12:45 AM (GMT)
i can't get it the right position

Scott Shaputis - May 18, 2007 01:14 AM (GMT)

Crzyazn - May 18, 2007 01:28 AM (GMT)
above tut's good

i'd say the curling of the index finger is more of a preference, as long as it doesn't get in the way

fitzgeraldhimself - May 18, 2007 01:39 AM (GMT)
If your finger is curled in or not does not really matter to a great degree--I can do both but I usually extend it when doing cont MA's. To be able to catch it back at the starting position; either let it drop just a bit before you catch it or catch it with your ring finger near the back (top side of the finger, nail side) of the middle finger if that makes sense and then bring it down to the starting position, kind of like a rev pass. Practice repositioning by doing rev pass 12-23 -> rev pass 23-12 cont. and being able to reposition it.

frisbee - May 18, 2007 01:46 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (strat1227 @ May 18 2007, 12:40 AM)
QUOTE (frisbee @ May 17 2007, 08:31 PM)
Your index finger should be extended when you do the trick, not curled in. Make sure you're doing that

um, fail??


I curl mine in.... and i think fitz (the master of cont MA) curls his in also <_<


idk how i do it.... kinda just dont catch it when you normally would, wait a second and gravity will take it back to right position.

Um, no. There is no failure there. As fitzgerald just posted (contrary to what you said, i guess you "fail" right??), if you want to catch it at the COP or starting position it's easier with the index extended because it keeps the hand still & allows the pen to slip back into place. With your index finger curled your hand has a tendency to jerk up slightly to catch (as if you were doing a rev. middlebak or something) so the catch occurs earlier higher up on the pen. That makes it much harder to catch in the position required.

Yes, you can do MA both ways. Yes, you can catch it as Chun wanted both ways. But index out is easier. IMO it also looks better aesthetically, with the finger curled in it looks like an indexaround but with it pointing out you can tell that it's in the middle of the hand.

sketching - May 18, 2007 03:23 AM (GMT)
For me, the longer you push, the easier it is to get the pen to end closer to the starting position. You can do a Fingeraround with a very minimal push, but the pen tends to fly away from the finger. Try to not let go of the pen until the Ring finger is brought up even with the inside of the Middle finger.

frisbee - May 18, 2007 03:32 AM (GMT)
@sketching: I think this also has to do with the finger curled in or out method. If your index is pointed outward it limits the flexibility of your fingers so you can't push as hard, thus you have to push longer for the same result. (meaning you catch it nearer to the start as you said)

sketching - May 18, 2007 04:06 AM (GMT)
I have my Index finger curled in for my Middlearounds.

Whether my Index finger is curled or not has no effect on how my Ring finger moves. :huh:

frisbee - May 18, 2007 04:24 AM (GMT)
Well, i think that it has the same effect. Idk i just couldnt do continous MA until i started sticking out my index finger. Now i just think it's better form aesthetically & for purposes of comboing

faulk - May 18, 2007 08:14 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (sketching @ May 17 2007, 08:23 PM)
For me, the longer you push, the easier it is to get the pen to end closer to the starting position. You can do a Fingeraround with a very minimal push, but the pen tends to fly away from the finger. Try to not let go of the pen until the Ring finger is brought up even with the inside of the Middle finger.

Hmm that was a good tip. Thanks :P.

::Chun:: - May 19, 2007 11:03 AM (GMT)
i can't even 100% to do my middle around yet. so i think i need more time to practise that. (i am not sure is my grammer right or not, if not, plx correct me)




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