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Captain_Toasty - January 27, 2008 05:41 AM (GMT)
i hypothesize the jew media is behind this

Swords_McSwords - January 27, 2008 06:02 AM (GMT)
I hypothesize that you were behind this and screwing it the whole time.

KK4 - January 28, 2008 01:39 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Captain_Toasty @ Jan 27 2008, 05:41 AM)
i hypothesize the jew media is behind this

You're starting down a rabbit hole you don't want to go down, my friend. Just go back to life as usual, and don't question anything.

rofljohn - January 28, 2008 04:09 PM (GMT)
of course the media is (still) completely ignoring Ron PAul a true conservative who let me remind you won second in nevada and has raised over 13 million in two seperate days

Swords_McSwords - January 29, 2008 01:33 AM (GMT)
Who should care?! The world's just gonna end sooner or later, so I say fuck politics and P-A-R-T-Y!!!!!!! And besides, democracy and voting blows. The only good form of government is a dictatorship.

MrFrost - February 17, 2008 11:46 PM (GMT)
i really dont like obama, he has no experence and the only reason why he is doing so good is cause he is black.

delita - February 18, 2008 02:40 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (MrFrost @ Feb 17 2008, 11:46 PM)
i really dont like obama, he has no experence and the only reason why he is doing so good is cause he is black.

being a senator isn't 'experience'???

MrFrost - February 18, 2008 05:42 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (delita @ Feb 17 2008, 09:40 PM)
QUOTE (MrFrost @ Feb 17 2008, 11:46 PM)
i really dont like obama, he has no experence and the only reason why he is doing so good is cause he is black.

being a senator isn't 'experience'???

Sure it is, but he hasn't been one for very long and he didn't do anything all that great. All the others whom are running have "done" something in their career and made a name for them selves. Plus a butt load of experence.

delita - February 18, 2008 10:19 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (MrFrost @ Feb 18 2008, 05:42 PM)
QUOTE (delita @ Feb 17 2008, 09:40 PM)
QUOTE (MrFrost @ Feb 17 2008, 11:46 PM)
i really dont like obama, he has no experence and the only reason why he is doing so good is cause he is black.

being a senator isn't 'experience'???

Sure it is, but he hasn't been one for very long and he didn't do anything all that great. All the others whom are running have "done" something in their career and made a name for them selves. Plus a butt load of experence.

hitlery cunton donated to some gay charities, obama wrote two best selling books

Captain_Toasty - February 19, 2008 03:17 AM (GMT)
yeah tbh hillary isn't really that much more experienced than obama

MrFrost - February 19, 2008 08:34 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Captain_Toasty @ Feb 18 2008, 10:17 PM)
yeah tbh hillary isn't really that much more experienced than obama

sure she is, she was president for god sakes for 8 years. what do you think that was all bill ?

Swords_McSwords - February 19, 2008 10:38 PM (GMT)
I should be president..Scratch that, DICTATOR OF AMERICA!!!

Dajhail - February 19, 2008 10:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (MrFrost @ Feb 19 2008, 08:34 PM)
QUOTE (Captain_Toasty @ Feb 18 2008, 10:17 PM)
yeah tbh hillary isn't really that much more experienced than obama

sure she is, she was president for god sakes for 8 years. what do you think that was all bill ?

Sounds like she's had her two terms then.

Swords_McSwords - February 19, 2008 10:57 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dajhail @ Feb 19 2008, 05:50 PM)
QUOTE (MrFrost @ Feb 19 2008, 08:34 PM)
QUOTE (Captain_Toasty @ Feb 18 2008, 10:17 PM)
yeah tbh hillary isn't really that much more experienced than obama

sure she is, she was president for god sakes for 8 years. what do you think that was all bill ?

Sounds like she's had her two terms then.

Yep. xd

MrFrost - February 20, 2008 06:16 PM (GMT)
I personally could care less about how many terns a president surves as long as the do a good job. An they did quite well if i am correct. They balenced the budget, gained a surplus of cash so our taxes were lowered, Had sex with a intern, stopped a war with russia. Some real good stuff.

Possessed - February 26, 2008 09:39 PM (GMT)
Ugh. As much as I'm uncertain about Obama, he's definately the lesser of two evils on this ballot. Thank god Georgie can't run again, because if I had to choose between him and Hilary Clinton, I'd have probably chosen the unlisted third option of "Blow your brains out".

MrFrost - February 26, 2008 10:31 PM (GMT)
are you kidding? were do you even remember the Clinton administration? it had been one of the best 8 years of our lives if you recall. The last few presidents before bill and also after bill have been jerk-offs. An having Hil as president would be a very good thing because she was behind the sceenes helping bill in the past just as bill will be helping her in the hopefull future. Now lets look at a list of the good things they had done before Bush fucked it all up.
  • Average economic growth of 4.0 percent per year, compared to average growth of 2.8 percent during the previous years. The economy grew for 116 consecutive months, the most in history
  • Creation of more than 22.5 million jobs—the most jobs ever created under a single administration, and more than were created in the previous 12 years. Of the total new jobs, 20.7 million, or 92 percent, were in the private sector
  • Economic gains spurred an increase in family incomes for all Americans. Since 1993, real median family income increased by $6,338, from $42,612 in 1993 to $48,950 in 1999 (in 1999 dollars).
  • Overall unemployment dropped to the lowest level in more than 30 years, down from 6.9 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in January 2001. The unemployment rate was below 5 percent for 40 consecutive months. Unemployment for African Americans fell from 14.2 percent in 1992 to 7.3 percent in 2000, the lowest rate on record. Unemployment for Hispanics fell from 11.8 percent in October 1992 to 5.0 percent in 2000, also the lowest rate on record.
  • Inflation dropped to its lowest rate since the Kennedy Administration, averaging 2.5 percent, and fell from 4.7 percent during the previous administration
  • The homeownership rate reached 67.7 percent near the end of the Clinton administration, the highest rate on record. In contrast, the homeownership rate fell from 65.6 percent in the first quarter of 1981 to 63.7 percent in the first quarter of 1993
  • The poverty rate also declined from 15.1 percent in 1993 to 11.8 percent in 1999, the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years. This left 7 million fewer people in poverty than there were in 1993
  • The surplus in fiscal year 2000 was $237 billion—the third consecutive surplus and the largest surplus ever
  • Clinton worked with the Republican-led Congress to enact welfare reform. As a result, welfare rolls dropped dramatically and were the lowest since 1969. Between January 1993 and September of 1999, the number of welfare recipients dropped by 7.5 million (a 53 percent decline) to 6.6 million. In comparison, between 1981-1992, the number of welfare recipients increased by 2.5 million (a 22 percent increase) to 13.6 million people.
  • Got a blowjob..

wow.. some bad stuff here huh..? They created alot of job and money for the american people..

Possessed - February 26, 2008 10:36 PM (GMT)
I'm very aware that the Clinton administration was a prosperous one.

However, we're not talking about Bill here; we're talking about Hilary, who sponsors a lot of policies I don't agree with. And on top of that, she just scares me.

In addition, the sad fact is, while we allow our women freedom and equal rights, not the entire world shares a like mindset. Even if it's wrong for it to be that way, if we were to have a woman president, it might seriously strain a lot of foreign relations with certain countries. Hell, many of them might not even agree to meet with her.

MrFrost - February 26, 2008 11:08 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Possessed @ Feb 26 2008, 05:36 PM)
I'm very aware that the Clinton administration was a prosperous one.

However, we're not talking about Bill here; we're talking about Hilary, who sponsors a lot of policies I don't agree with. And on top of that, she just scares me.

In addition, the sad fact is, while we allow our women freedom and equal rights, not the entire world shares a like mindset. Even if it's wrong for it to be that way, if we were to have a woman president, it might seriously strain a lot of foreign relations with certain countries. Hell, many of them might not even agree to meet with her.

point taken, but then again the rest of the world needs a swift kick in the ass sometimes when it comes to these things.

Daniel - February 26, 2008 11:57 PM (GMT)
Not that I am American...

But the main problem I see with Hilary is that her and her husband are power hungry and will do anything for it.

Their tactics against Obama are appalling. The fact Hilary has said she would happily go against the will of the voters and use superdelegates to get the nom (tearing up her own party while she is at it) gives you an idea of how she works. She has several times in the last few weeks really thrown her toys out of the pram ("Shame on you Barack!"). From my point of view, she still has a bit of a Bush style to diplomacy - we will talk to you but you have to meet our standards first and it has to be on our terms (her comments in recent debates proove this).

I dont think she is all that strong either. She has cried on the campaign trail, she has gone apeshit on times - she lacks composure and from a global perspective this would make her weak and a poor leader.

She wont win any election either. She is very much a politician who works on emotion. She either gets people to love her, or just her talking winds people right up. McCain may not be ideal but I dont think he would rile as many people up.

I dont like her tbh. :fu:

Oh and she reminds me of Carolyn Burnham off American Beauty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybD0KeBaK_M

Clip for proof.

rofljohn - February 27, 2008 01:23 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Possessed @ Feb 26 2008, 04:36 PM)
In addition, the sad fact is, while we allow our women freedom and equal rights, not the entire world shares a like mindset.  Even if it's wrong for it to be that way, if we were to have a woman president, it might seriously strain a lot of foreign relations with certain countries.  Hell, many of them might not even agree to meet with her.

first of all, a woman leader would NOT harm our relations with other countries, plenty of other nations have elected female leaders, argentina and germany to name a few. it's about time we elected a female OR a minority. i, for one, am sick of middle-aged white men.

the reason i won't vote for hillary is because it'll be 8 more years of what we have now. she acts like republicans are her enemies and would be incapable of 'getting things done' like she says. she would alienate half of congress and half of the country. obama on the other hand i feel has the judgement to see that he needs to bring congress together in order to actually get anything done. our country is FAR too divided right now, and i think obama will be able to bring us back together.

Daniel - February 27, 2008 01:53 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (rofljohn @ Feb 27 2008, 01:23 AM)
first of all, a woman leader would NOT harm our relations with other countries, plenty of other nations have elected female leaders, argentina and germany to name a few. it's about time we elected a female OR a minority. i, for one, am sick of middle-aged white men.

I think perhaps the biggest one to name would be Pakistan. :omg:

Possessed - February 27, 2008 06:56 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (rofljohn @ Feb 27 2008, 01:23 AM)
QUOTE (Possessed @ Feb 26 2008, 04:36 PM)
In addition, the sad fact is, while we allow our women freedom and equal rights, not the entire world shares a like mindset.  Even if it's wrong for it to be that way, if we were to have a woman president, it might seriously strain a lot of foreign relations with certain countries.  Hell, many of them might not even agree to meet with her.

first of all, a woman leader would NOT harm our relations with other countries, plenty of other nations have elected female leaders, argentina and germany to name a few. it's about time we elected a female OR a minority. i, for one, am sick of middle-aged white men.


Well, I agree on some points...a Female President would be a milestone, and not altogether a bad change. And while there are many female leaders, what I was getting at was that one probably wouldn't be looked upon too kindly in many middle eastern countries, with whom a lot of repair work will be needed as-is.

So, while I was saying that a female president might not be the best thing right now, I wasn't saying it wouldn't be a good thing later.

However, I agree majorly on your points about Hilary, especially about the emotional reactions. The way she responds to a lot of situations makes me concerned about her keeping a cool head in a crisis.

MrFrost - February 27, 2008 09:07 PM (GMT)
but you have to remember that this is not about what color and sex you are it is about how well you think that they can run a country, an I think that obama is winning because of his race and nothing more. If he were a skinney little white dude I highly doubt that he would have had gotten this far and Hil would be running him into the gound.

Diero - March 3, 2008 06:15 AM (GMT)
To say that Obama's race is the only reason most (there will always be some) are voting for him is doing him an extreme disservice. He's a very intelligent man.

As for Hillary, she has not proven to me as a voter that she is the one. Let's go over a few things:

a) Bill isn't on the ticket. I was watching him speak at a rally the other day. He's still got it. He knows how to rile up a crowd. He knows how to speak. At the same time, it's not him who's going to be in office. It's Hillary, and she has not impressed me.

b) You cannot cite Bill Clinton's accomplishments as Hillary's. It doesn't work that way. Hillary, barring her Senate career, is a clean slate as far as I am concerned. We have no legitimate indication of how she would run the country, if only to say that, policy-wise, she might run it like Obama, since she is having trouble distancing herself from him on the issues anyway. This is a moot point, though.

c) Howard Wolfson is mishandling Hillary's campaign something fierce, and every attack she has lobbed at Obama has backfired on her. It's not a matter of her being a woman. It's a matter of her being Hillary Clinton. She is very smart and very detailed in her policies. She is also divisive as fuck. I don't want to deal with four or eight years of that.

d) Obama has proven to me, personally, time and time again, that he is more than capable of running this country. Whether it's in the answers to his debate questions (like the admittedly loaded question about whether Dr. King would endorse him if he were alive today), the fact that when he was asked at Google "what is the best way to sort a million 32-bit integers", he was actually prepared with a good answer, or his six years of work getting bills passed in the Illinois State Legislature, which everyone seems to dismiss as a fucking farce for some reason. These are bills that wouldn't have had a snowball's chance in hell, like the one he passed that called for surveillance during interrogations and confessions in the Illinois State Police system.

The thing I've come to realize about Obama is that while he doesn't know everything, he knows the people to consult to get the right answers. I don't need a candidate with an overflowing brain to tell me what to do and how to do it. I need a candidate who is willing to listen, grab the best ideas from people who have them, and make the country better as a whole.

P.S: The fact that he's running a campaign that is not based on his potential, but that of his constituents, is very telling.

Linzi - March 3, 2008 03:49 PM (GMT)
I'm not American but from what I've read online, and seen on tv I would definately vote Obama. His views on the environment and faith are enough for me ;p

Defiant - March 14, 2008 06:30 AM (GMT)
I would totally go for Clinton.... A woman in the big house would slap some sense into a terrible country.

Possessed - March 14, 2008 04:58 PM (GMT)
To be honest, at this point I'm more for Obama. Clinton, as I've said before, supports several policies that I don't care for at all, including Amnesty for illegal immigrants.
McCain has some good stances as well, but he also officially supports Amnesty, which bothers me even more than Clinton's, since his stance was originally that he was going to tighten border security and deport illegal immigrants. Now that he's the frontrunner, it feels like he's trying to take advantage of his lead by changing his stance to get more support from special interest groups in favor of Amnesty, knowing that the people who wanted Border security are most likely Republican and voting for their party's candidate regardless. Even if that isn't the case, it's still doing the same thing his party belittled Kerry for last time: "Flip-flopping".

Swords_McSwords - March 14, 2008 07:20 PM (GMT)
You people are fools! These people aren't fit to rule a country! Why are they even trying?! I mean sure they'd do better than Bush but not by much..With a democratic/capitalistic system, we all lose! I will not say this again!!!

Defiant - March 16, 2008 08:03 PM (GMT)
I just think that USA needs a huge makeover and stop making so many terrible mistakes. What do you expect, I'm Canadian.




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